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Windows 7: Need help with aligning my new Samsung 830 SSD.

09 Dec 2012   #1
linnemeyerhere

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 
Need help with aligning my new Samsung 830 SSD.

Samsung 830 has a bad alignment issue, first install was a clone of a Vertex SSD and it ran blazing fast but in AS SSD shows over 500,000k bad. Then did a clean install and after getting all my updates and software re-loaded had a similar huge number bad again but still a very quick drive and both installs showed 7.9 in WEI. So now I've imaged my Samsung to a Seagate HDD, I've totally cleaned my Vertex and need to restore the image to it then I can use the Samsung clone tool to hopefully properly align the Samsung 830 and be off to the races as they say. So I need help with re-storing the image to the Vertex then cloning should be smooth from there???


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09 Dec 2012   #2
DavidE

Win 7 Pro x64 SP1, Win 7 Ult x86 SP1
 
 

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09 Dec 2012   #3
linnemeyerhere

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 

David,
Thanks, I had a chance to look at the tutorials and already knew that a clean install would take care of the alignment issue but it didn't. Called Samsung and before arranging for a new drive I wanted to see if I could image/clone it back on to the Samsung and get it to align? I've never had this issue with an SSD before but even with the 500,000+k bad showing in AS SSD benchmark it's still just a crazy fast drive, but being driven to perfection is like a sickness....lol !
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09 Dec 2012   #4
essenbe
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 X64
 
 

Alan, clean install. Disconnect all other drives so just the Samsung is connected. Boot to the installation disk, and at the first window, hold down shift and press F10. That will give you a command prompt. these are the commands to create and format an aligned partition. You will only have 1 disk showing, so will select disk 0 where I selected disk 1. When finished, type exit and press enter twice. You will be back at the language window, then just install. It will be aligned because you just did it.

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09 Dec 2012   #5
linnemeyerhere

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 

Steve,
This will be the last resort (another clean install) I'm hoping that from my image I can properly align to the Samsung as I just don't have the time to do another clean install.
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09 Dec 2012   #6
essenbe
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 X64
 
 

Alan, when you did the clean install, was there a partition on the drive?
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09 Dec 2012   #7
LittleJay

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SP 1
 
 

SSD - Fix Misalignment

I ran across this tutorial and was wondering if it would help you.
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09 Dec 2012   #8
linnemeyerhere

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 

Steve, I did the clean install last weekend and no partition.
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09 Dec 2012   #9
essenbe
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 X64
 
 

Alan, others may disagree, but this is my experience with SSDs. I have never known the Windows 7 installer to not properly align and SSD to a raw drive. If you use an imaging program, you will need to create an aligned partition first. If you do that the imaging program will, most of the time but not always, leave the alignment at what you set it. If you do not align the partition first, it seems that the imaging program carries the alignment from the drive you created the image from over to the new drive. The only sure and fail safe way I know to do it is with Paragon Migrate. You have to do nothing except select the OS, if you have more than one, select the destination disk, you have to tell it to format it, and press copy. I have done it both to a mechanical hard drive and an SSD back and forth at least 50 times and it has never failed once. That and doing the clean install using diskpart are the only ways I know of to be certain the SSD will be aligned when finished.

That has been my experience with different programs and images from several programs. Other's mileage may differ.
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09 Dec 2012   #10
linnemeyerhere

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 

Boy of boy Steve and that about sums my experience up. My clean install was going to be a smooth problem solving experience, but no such luck. This very issue had the Samsung tech stumped and thinking maybe it was an issue with the drive it's self. As you mentioned maybe the first install from the clean installed Vertex III was the source of the first go round alignment issue but when I formatted and then clean installed the second go around and had the exact same issue well that has a lot of heads scratching.
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