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Windows 7: 2 blown mobos in 6 months - any advice please guru's?

19 Dec 2012   #21
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

I always recommend Corsair, Seasonic and Antec PSU's. I have had 5 or 6 Corsair's and never an issue. 2 boards in 6 months is not normal, but possible. But, I would replace the PSU if for no other reason than to eliminate that possibility. And an electrical storm will do it. If it enters through the PSU, the better quality ones have protection for that, cheap ones don't. But, electricity will many times enter through the ethernet cable. Nothing is going to stop that. (I know from experience), except a good UPS that the cat6 passes through.


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19 Dec 2012   #22
linnemeyerhere

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Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 

I've used all Ultra's as they're warrantied for life, but have to admit that my recent build with a X series Seasonic came out sweet and it's a top flight PSU and then a budget build with a Corsair builders series PSU sits waiting to go into a workbench when it arrives.
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20 Dec 2012   #23
bobafetthotmail

Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by linnemeyerhere View Post
As I understand ASUS no longer owns ASRock.
Hmm, checking and seems right on paper.
Afaik they still have very strong relationships, as Pegatron (the owner of AsRock and former subsidiary of Asustek/ASUS that still owns 25% or so of it) does manufacture quite a few ASUS boards as well (and other brands subsidize some of their production to them), also their supply chain is very similar if not the same. Plus both use Asustek controllers while Asrock is far cheaper for equal boards (which means they don't have to pay a lot to use them).

Considering that they are competing with each other, that's a weird situation. Maybe in the future Asrock will be more separate from ASUS, but for now there are a lot of points in common.
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20 Dec 2012   #24
linnemeyerhere

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Separate companies is the word on the street, maybe it's logical that some ties still there but that's it.

ASRock now third-largest motherboard maker | bit-tech.net

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/ar.../t-151469.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/asr...DIY,18030.html
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20 Dec 2012   #25
mmkarimi

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

could u boot your system with CD or flash? that could be a malfunction with your HDD too...
PSU is really hard to go broke, also there is a fuse in it which can be replaced if the ampere goes high

if your computer turns on your PSU is okey, of u see the screen the motherboard is 60% okey, and if you dont hear the ram error beep the rams are okey ,
first try to access to the boot screen with holding del or F2 key, if you could access that blue screen try to change the boot device and boot with the Win CD

hope that helps
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20 Dec 2012   #26
linnemeyerhere

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Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 

It is never ever recommended to open the PSU for any reason as there are no user replaceable parts inside but the stored energy in the caps is potentially dangerous !
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21 Dec 2012   #27
ickymay

win7 ultimate / virtual box
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Solarstarshines View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ickymay View Post
I am going to have to disagree with the bad rep for the MSI board, I am personally using this MSI Z77A-G43 with an i7 CPU clocked at 4.2ghz.

I have had one problem with it and that was using the corsair ram, now solved when I replaced them with the Gskill Ripjaws.

The component quality on this motherboard looks mid to high range to me certainly not shoddy and with plenty of tolerance for overclocking, I would currently rate them above Asrock.

I think your problem definitely points towards your PSU.

lol Corsairs on there QVL so I don't know about that one
Not meaning to Hijack this thread but I hope there might some gain to the viewing public.

yes you would hope you could trust the QVL but whenever I populated all Ram slots it would Bluescreen crash with a variety of errors, so I contacted MSI and Corsair.

MSI made me another Bios to try and eliminate crashes and Corsair claimed it shouldn't be a problem but agreed to a returns on the Ram.

I got the new Ram from Corsair and ran on my board with exactly the same errors and eventually settled for just populating 3 slots for a total of 12GB

Two months later I had some , "GSkill Ripjaws Z Series 1600 CL 9.0 16GB (4x 4GB, DDR3, Quad Channel, F3-12800CL9Q-16GBZL) as Link", spare from another build so fitted it to my MSI Z77A-G43 mobo and I haven't had a problem or crash since

It's also now clocked to 4.2GHZ and stable as a rock.
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21 Dec 2012   #28
Indianatone

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate and numerous virtual machines
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mmkarimi View Post
could u boot your system with CD or flash? that could be a malfunction with your HDD too...
PSU is really hard to go broke, also there is a fuse in it which can be replaced if the ampere goes high

if your computer turns on your PSU is okey, of u see the screen the motherboard is 60% okey, and if you dont hear the ram error beep the rams are okey ,
first try to access to the boot screen with holding del or F2 key, if you could access that blue screen try to change the boot device and boot with the Win CD

hope that helps
Absolute nonsense. Power supplies can and do cause all manner of issues from crashing to not booting. The computer can work fine and something as minor as opening a DVD drive to put a disc in can bring the system to its knees. Cheap power supplies can and do blow hard drives and DVD burners and can also be destroyed by overclocking and excessive current draw. To say if your computer turns on the psu is OK is also wrong. Any power supply can fail at any time but they often fail in brownouts and thunderstorms.
I stand by the first post I made, the original poster has had 2 MB go bad, for peace of mind I would replace the power supply and use a different brand of MB.
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21 Dec 2012   #29
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

I agree 100% with Indianatone. PSUs can and do go out. They create all kinds of issues that are not always obvious. As stated, they can take many components with them, including the motherboard. To say 'if the computer turns on the PSU is OK' is absolutely wrong. Most of us here have seen it numerous times.
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21 Dec 2012   #30
mmkarimi

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Indianatone View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mmkarimi View Post
could u boot your system with CD or flash? that could be a malfunction with your HDD too...
PSU is really hard to go broke, also there is a fuse in it which can be replaced if the ampere goes high

if your computer turns on your PSU is okey, of u see the screen the motherboard is 60% okey, and if you dont hear the ram error beep the rams are okey ,
first try to access to the boot screen with holding del or F2 key, if you could access that blue screen try to change the boot device and boot with the Win CD

hope that helps
Absolute nonsense. Power supplies can and do cause all manner of issues from crashing to not booting. The computer can work fine and something as minor as opening a DVD drive to put a disc in can bring the system to its knees. Cheap power supplies can and do blow hard drives and DVD burners and can also be destroyed by overclocking and excessive current draw. To say if your computer turns on the psu is OK is also wrong. Any power supply can fail at any time but they often fail in brownouts and thunderstorms.
I stand by the first post I made, the original poster has had 2 MB go bad, for peace of mind I would replace the power supply and use a different brand of MB.
I agree on that PSU would cause several problems with the computer operation if it goes bad. but the first best and cheapest test would be that I said to check for the HDD error with testing with live windows CD.
to check for the hardware error you are absolutely true, you should start with the psu and then check the MB.
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