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Windows 7: BIOS Update - Boot Loader Missing

25 Dec 2012   #21
ganjiry

Win7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Ello folks.
First I apologize now as i've not slept much so my head isn't working too well .
I don't use the fast boot or boot manager myself and am still pretty lost in most area's of this bios. It's a scary sight the first time you see it.
Even asus mods recommend you don't use the in windows tool for flashing the bios. Did you set the bios to optimized defaults before flashing to the new bios? You should. I'm using bios 1301 and never had any problems.
The earlier bios's where .rom files but these newer one's are .cap. Before updating to the newer .cap bios's there is a change you have to make. ASUS Bios update - General-Motherboard - Motherboards-Memory

I recommend you start a thread on the ROG forums ASUS Republic of Gamers | The Choice of Champions News, Guides, Overclocking, PC Gaming
These guys eat sleep and drink ROG bios's.

You have probably already tried but I'll ask anyway. During post hit the F8 button which will bring you to the boot menu. Select the drive to boot from and hit enter.
When you installed windows did you only have the drive that you were installing windows on connected? If more drives were connected then windows could have boot the MBR on a different disc. If you had more drives connected i recommend disconnecting all except the ssd you plan to install windows on and try again.

Here's a couple of screenies of our bios at stock settings. I'm really sorry i'm not much help but ROG bios is not soething i've delved right into.
The 3rd screeshot is the Asmedia sata port.




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25 Dec 2012   #22
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

One more question. Does your bios have dual bios chips? If it does and you didn't flash both bioses, try switching bios chips. It should automatically update the second bios to the older bios version. I have dual bios chips on my board. The only difference in out boards is yours is the AMD version and mine is the Intel version, is my understanding, anyway. I have 2 bioses chips with a different bios on each chip. Once I switch and boot up, you should see a screen saying updating bios with a progress bar. It is loading the bios that is on that chip. Once there, it will allow me to copy bios 1 to bios 2 or vice versa. I can only assume that is the way yours is too.
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25 Dec 2012   #23
ganjiry

Win7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Another one of the decent features left out on the v formula is dual bios no bios flash back either mate.
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25 Dec 2012   #24
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ganjiry View Post
Another one of the decent features left out on the v formula is dual bios no bios flash back either mate.
ganjiry, thanks for your help. Will your board allow you to flash the bios backward? Some boards will not. I honestly do not believe that is the problem. There has to be some setting on the board that will allow you to use UEFI or legacy with UEFI support. The latter one is what he wants and needs. My board is simple, but I am completely unfamiliar with your board. On Christmas Eve at the turn of midnight, I was reading the manual for this board. I read it twice and found nothing even remotely relating to his problem. Unless, I noticed a picture in the manual, it was of the easy bios. It showed 2 hard drives. 1 just showed a hard drive, the second showed that same hard drive with UEFI written on it. I am wondering if, which you pick has any effect on whether Windows installs as legacy or UEFI. I had a P67 motherboard once, In the boot menu it listed each drive twice, one was simply the drive, the other was the same drive with uefi. I never selected the UEFI one and it never installed the UEFI way, but I still had the UEFI options in bios. I am curious if which you choose determines which way windows installs. If you chose the UEFI one, it installs through the UEFI bios. If not, it installs legacy.
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25 Dec 2012   #25
incurablegeek

Win 7-64
 
 

Well, Clever Ole Me. I never cease to amaze myself.

In order to be thorough I thought I'd bring the BIOS back to factory default settings. No way to do that within this particular Crosshair V Formula motherboard BIOS. I checked.

So I removed the CMOS battery, waited a few seconds and then replaced it.

Now, I have nothing. No action on the motherboard and no ability to get into the BIOS.

I am now on the other computer - got 3, so at least I can cry out for help. What to do?

I do know one thing for sure. When you grow up you all want to be like me.
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25 Dec 2012   #26
ganjiry

Win7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

No probs chap. Just sorry i can't help more. Yeah the manual isn't up to much is it
I think the board is ok to flash to an older bios as its meant for overclocking and some of them are constantly using different bios versions.
I think this issue may relate to the microsoft boot manager that we had a post about not so long ago. I can't find it. Something about UEFI and boot manage stopping any none microsoft software/drivers from booting once the UEFI option was enabled.
There was a solution found to it then...
Check post 8 on this thread HELP !! How to install Win7 on a Win8 pre-loaded G75vw ? (Suicide mode almost ON!)!)

Edit: to default the v formula's bios hit F5 to laoad defaults and F10 to save n exit.
Edit 2: you can order a replacement bios chip online or from Asus customer service but it would be quicker to buy it from someone other than Asus..
Before you do anything drastic read the post in that thread i linked aswell as make a post on that forum. They are all super familliar with the bios. Plus some of the Asus mods use the forum too so you have a good chance of getting sorted
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25 Dec 2012   #27
incurablegeek

Win 7-64
 
 

Quote:
In order to be thorough I thought I'd bring the BIOS back to factory default settings. No way to do that within this particular Crosshair V Formula motherboard BIOS. I checked.

So I removed the CMOS battery, waited a few seconds and then replaced it.

Now, I have nothing. No action on the motherboard and no ability to get into the BIOS.

I am now on the other computer - got 3, so at least I can cry out for help. What to do?
Despite my feeble attempt at levity (above), I am now officially scared. After taking out and replacing the CMOS battery, my computer is now dead in the water.

Geez, I thought that was about as benign a thing I could do. Just took out and replaced the battery.

And yes, this ASUS manual really stinks big time.

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to default the v formula's bios hit F5 to laoad defaults and F10 to save n exit.
I tried that and that's what gave me the screwball boot order. Ugh! This is truly a bad dream!

No Lights Flashing: CPU, RAM, etc. No Nothing now!
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25 Dec 2012   #28
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

OK. Check the PSU. Make sure it is plugged in and there is power coming from it. Make sure the on/off switch is selected as ON. (I know. I did that one myself and worked for 2 hours trying to figure out what I did). Make sure the battery is inserted correctly and completely. You should unplug the power and drain the battery, remove the CMOS battery. Leave it out for a minute or 2. Put it back in making sure it is seated and correctly installed. Plug the power supply back in. Wait for motherboard lights to light up. then go straight to bios. The only thing that should be wrong, is the power is not connected to the motherboard or the battery is not correctly seated and properly installed. It should have just made your BIOS forget every setting in it.
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25 Dec 2012   #29
incurablegeek

Win 7-64
 
 

All of the stuff you suggested I of course did. I try not to overlook the obvious, though often do.

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Put it back in making sure it is seated and correctly installed.
That's my question. All batteries have polarity. And this one being round, there is nevertheless a + sign indicating positive on the battery. Should that + sign be facing up, down or in any particular direction. Btw, the OC (overclock), Reset and Start Buttons all light up nicely. Just no flashing lights for the RAM, CPU, etc.

Oh, and the CMOS battery is not upside down. The shiny side with the info is of course facing up or visible.

Homie try not to be dat stupid.

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I have replaced CMOS batteries before without incident, though quite awhile ago. Stupidly simple. Pop it out and pop it back in.

When you say + goes up, I assume you mean the obvious, facing upward and not facing upward and vertical with respect to the top of the case.

Why in the world though do fans spin, bottom buttons light up, graphic board lights on but NO CPU, RAM lights flashing - And this problem results from simply popping out the CMOS battery? Geez, I must be jinxed.

Note: All power connectors are connected to the board.
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25 Dec 2012   #30
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

As far as I know, the writing and the + side should be facing you after re installing the battery. Is it possible you loosened something when replacing the battery? Stranger things than than that have happened. As far as I am aware, there is nothing about replacing the battery that can damage the board.

Please give us an update and if nothing else, see if you can start it. I know, you've tried that a dozen times. I just looked at my CMOS battery and it is in with the writing and the + facing up. In other words, after installing it, I can see the writing and the + sign on the battery.
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