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Windows 7: BIOS Update - Boot Loader Missing

26 Dec 2012   #51
incurablegeek

Win 7-64
 
 

Quote:
If you want to flash the BIOS (to get it to the most recent version I would presume?) then there is no reason why you can't do it with no drives attached. It's a "can't hurt, might help" situation.
This way I will do for sure. As far as computers can be said to "make sense", this way (reduce the number of variables) makes sense, at least in a logical world.

@essenbe

Whoa! What the heck ever happened to just connecting the SSD and the optical drives, popping in my installation disk and just sitting back?

Not saying you're wrong and I will indeed do what you tell me - just curious.


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26 Dec 2012   #52
incurablegeek

Win 7-64
 
 

OK, did what I said I was going to do, which I think is what was suggested.

Disconnected all drives except the opticals.

Flashed the BIOS with USB (BIOS #1703)

The I selected "optimized defaults" - before and after screenshots show no difference in boot order

The screenshots document everything, including the remaining boot order chaos.

Just a quick lifestyle question: Do you fellows think I should consult Jack Daniels in the future. I don't drink; but right now it seems like a very appealing idea.


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26 Dec 2012   #53
theog

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ME/XP/Vista/Win7
 
 

Your first boot drive is in uEFI mode.
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26 Dec 2012   #54
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Perhaps I am wrong, but it is my understanding that for the installation to be in UEFI mode, the installer will do that, but the drive has to be in raw format in order to do it that way, or can be formatted as Theog's example in part a GPT partition. It was my intention to make it to where that could not happen. You will have an aligned primary partition to install to and, unless I'm wrong, cannot be installed as UEFI style. There are others much more versed in this than me and I could be wrong, but that was my understanding. The installer with a formatted primary partition will do a legacy install, which is what you would like.
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26 Dec 2012   #55
incurablegeek

Win 7-64
 
 

You guys are gonna give me Freddy Kruger bad dreams tonight. Until I had this problem, I never had occasion to give the BIOS a moment's notice.

Conclusions:

1) I think I should do what essenbe suggested:
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When you boot the installer, at the first page do not select your language, hold down Shift and press F10, it will bring up a command prompt. Type these commands and press enter after each one. If you have only 1 disk attached you should show only 1 disk numbered 0 (number zero)
Diskpart (wait for the window to reply diskpart)
List disk
Select disk 0
clean
create partition primary align=1024
format fs=ntfs quick
active
exit exit
I'm way out of my league here but I think that kind of cleans up the boot order?

Please vote: Yes -or- No

2) Just connect the opticals and the single SSD

Please vote: Yes -or- No

3) Let the Windows installation take care of the SSD preparation. Although it's probably unnecessary because of SSD architecture (routine TRIM cleanup) and most people agree that formatting an SSD is "bad" because it increases wear (a silly argument because you will probably die before your SSD gets worn out from formatting), I just let Win 7 "format" the SSD just as it would during a normal install on an HDD.

Please vote: Yes -or- No

In conclusion, then, am I correct to do the above three (3) things?
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26 Dec 2012   #56
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

As far as the formatting goes, a full format is not necessary. You notice I gave the command ntfs quick. That is a quick (light) format and is what the installer itself would do. By doing those commands the installer does not format the drive, it is already formatted. The installer simply installs. If it were me, I would connect only the optical and the 1 SSD, go to bios, make sure I was in AHCI mode, set the first boot device to the optical drive, the 2nd boot device to the SSD and not the Windows boot loader, save and exit. Follow the diskpart guide I gave and install. Now, that is what I would do and exactly what I usually do and have never had a UEFI boot option.
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26 Dec 2012   #57
incurablegeek

Win 7-64
 
 

essenbe, all that is pretty straight-forward and just good old common sense. Will do.

I like what you taught me and am eager to see how it works!
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26 Dec 2012   #58
theog

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

ME/XP/Vista/Win7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by theog View Post
The ASUS Crosshair V motherboard BIOS has a uEFI/BIOS firmware.
Windows Boot Manager is add to GPT mode HD Drive or SSD.

Can you post a screen shot of Disk management?

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From what I can see, you have no problems with your Windows 7 boot SSD.
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26 Dec 2012   #59
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by incurablegeek View Post
essenbe, all that is pretty straight-forward and just good old common sense. Will do.

I like what you taught me and am eager to see how it works!
If I gave the correct instructions to solve your problems.
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26 Dec 2012   #60
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

As far as I know, we have reasonably equivalent boards, just mine is Intel and yours is AMD. The biggest difference is I can select which type of install I want, legacy or UEFI, yours does not have that option. What I suggested is to see if we can force your board to do and boot from a legacy install. If not, you may have to have a UEFI installation. Please show us the disk management screenshot so Theog can see the type of install you have. He probably knows much more about the UEFI than I do, and is probably a better judge.
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