Apostrophe Key has massive delay on EN-UK Keyboard

How is it irrelevant to tell you why Firefox shows up the apostrophe only after another key is pressed? Check you Input Language settings, the EN-US International keyboard layout is the only one from EN-UK & EN-US keyboard layouts that does that.

It is absolutely sure that if you have installed EN-UK keyboard layout from Region and Language settings and are using it, that wont happen. This, having to press a key after apostrophe to get a letter with said apostrophe, is how EN-US International layout works, being the only EN-UK or EN-US layout that behaves so.

Keyboard settings in Windows is one of those Windows elements that really works. En-UK keyboard layout does not act like you said.

I was not saying you must have a hardware issue. I gave you one very common explanation for the delay such as what you described.

With utmost sincerity I want to apologize you for using my free time in trying to help you. Rest assured it will never happen again.

Kari, Windows Langue (Display and Input) expert.

I am not mad. I am just apologizing for wasting my time in my effort to help you.

I will repeat this one more time: What you described (apostrophes only typed after another key is pressed) is because of, and can only be because of that Firefox is set to use EN-US International keyboard layout, no other EN-US or EN-UK keyboard layout does this. That is for 100% sure the reason for this kind of behavior in Firefox or any other application.

I your opinion this was irrelevant. I have some difficulties to understand this: You have issues you do not understand. I tell you about the only possible reason for one of your issues (FF & apostrophes), and explain some typical reasons why another issue of yours might occur (delayed typing). You tell me my answer was not relevant.

So be it.

Kari


Kari

zomb said:

Kari - Your post was not relevant given the information that had been provided in previous posts by inaniloquent.

Does anyone else have any ideas, inaniloquent, did you manage to sort this out?

This has only started happening since I reinstalled windows 7 with a new motherboard.

The information I gave was and is relevant. EN-UK keyboard layout does not work like that, that's a fact.

Most common reason why this happens, and why it so often happens after reinstall is that user accidentally uses US language and input settings when installing simply by clicking Next or hitting Enter on first screen when install is launched. This screenshot from a typical Windows 7 install I just made to a virtual machine an hour ago, install media bought in Europe still defaulting to US:



Add the fact that Windows not only allows keyboard layout set independently on each application but also remembers it, and the issues begin. User goes to language settings and switches to EN-UK but forgets to remove the underlying EN-US. When an application is now used which was already used at least once before setting a new default input language, the old setting remains active for that application.

I repeat: EN-UK keyboard layout does not behave like that, it does not wait another key to be pressed after an apostrophe key is pressed. It is always a user fault or a fault in the system which can be fixed by deleting / disabling wrong keyboard layouts, setting applications to use correct ones and setting correct default layout.

Kari

Kari said:

EN-UK keyboard layout does not work like that, that's a fact.

I don't care what you think is a fact, I'm not here to argue with you.

You can be a keyboard warrior all you like. The only fact is, I only had the EN-UK keyboard installed, all other types of keyboard were not installed at install time.

I repeat: The only keyboard layout I had installed was the EN-UK one.

I understand what you're saying about having multiple layouts installed, yes I have witnessed that behaviour. But when I experienced the problem to begin with I only had one layout installed.

End of the day, your reply didn't help. And you got all up-tight about it because you were wrong.

I repeat: I'm not here to argue.

Shades of Monty Python
"I'm here for an argument"
"No you're not"
"Yes, I AM"
"NO, you're not"
This isn't an argument"
"Yes, it is"
"No, it's not. It is merely a contradiction of Terms"

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Anyway, there might be some confusion because there is a lack of hard information needed to help find a solution. Kari provided what he knows - good info.

It would help if the language diaglogs were shown so members could actually see how the keyboard and languge selections correspond. You'd be surprised how many things are fixed once members can see what you see. Many times there's a minor chnage that is missed, even by experienced people (I'm guilty)

I'm curious to know what the default keyboard is set to (UK or JP) and if the language bar is being used to switch between the two settings. I'm also curious to see if there are additional languages defined for this system. There is one more itme, I by chance noticed when grabbing my screen shots. The hotkey combination for switching text input.

See attached and please post yours:

Keyboard layout - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

wiki said:

United Kingdom extended
Windows XP SP2 and later also offer a "United Kingdom Extended" keyboard layout which allows input on a standard physical UK keyboard for many languages (including Welsh) without changing any of the allocations of frequently used keys (the rarely used grave accent key becomes a dead key). In particular, the apostrophe, double-quote, tilde and caret keys are not changed into dead keys modifying the character generated by the next key pressed, as used by the US International layout. Instead, the additional characters are obtained using the AltGr key. The extended keyboard is software installed from the Windows control panel, and the extended characters are not normally engraved on keyboards.



The layout provides support for adding diacritics to the vowels a, e, i, o, u, w and y (the last two being used in Welsh) as well as capitals:

• The grave accent key ` (left of 1) becomes a dead key which adds a grave accent to a subsequent vowel, generating à, è, etc. Pressing the key followed by a character which does not take a grave accent behaves as on a standard keyboard; grave followed by spacebar generates a grave accent character.
• Vowels with acute accents are generated either by pressing AltGr and the relevant character key simultaneously, or AltGr and apostrophe ' (acting as a dead key combination) followed by the character. Some programs use the combination of AltGr and a letter for other functions, in which case the AltGr+' method must be used to generate acute accents.
• AltGr+6 acts as a dead key combination to add a circumflex to a subsequent vowel (â, ê, etc.). Use of the shifted 6 key is intended to be mnemonic as the key is marked with the caret (^), which looks like a circumflex.
• AltGr+2 acts as a dead key combination to add a diaeresis/umlaut to a subsequent vowel (ä, ë, etc.). Use of the shifted 2 key is intended to be mnemonic as on UK keyboards the key is marked with the double quote ("), which looks a similar to a diaeresis.
• AltGr+# (hash) acts as a dead key combination to add a tilde (~) to a subsequent A/a, N/n or O/o (ã, ñ, õ etc.), as used in Spanish and Portuguese. This is mnemonic again; the # key on a UK keyboard is marked with the tilde character (~).
• With Windows versions newer than Windows XP SP2, AltGr+C generates lower-case c with cedilla (ç), and AltGr+⇧ Shift+C generates the capital letter (Ç).

The UK extended layout is almost entirely transparent to users familiar with the UK layout; a machine with the extended layout will behave exactly as with the standard UK except for the rarely used grave accent key. This makes this layout suitable for a machine for shared or public use by a user population in which some, but not all, are aware of the extended functionality.