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28 Jan 2013   #91

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Service Pack 1 (build 7601)
 
 

The 100 MB partition is on the HD instead of the SSD. Is this going to be a problem? How can I fix it? See snip.




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29 Jan 2013   #92

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Config system restore settings System Protection - Turn On or Off
Any ghost disks there? If so disable system protection on that ghost disk. Be sure to enable system protection on C as shown in step 10.

Just turn it on for C.
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You did a clean install afterwards.... pffff. Why? You still can't set SSD as boot device in bios?

So you replaced SSD with standard Windows 7 install. All programs and data are gone?
Partition on other disk still has a fine working Windows 7 with all stuff?
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29 Jan 2013   #93

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by LeftC View Post
The 100 MB partition is on the HD instead of the SSD. Is this going to be a problem? How can I fix it? See snip.
Why do you have 13.8GB unallocated space at end of SSD? I told you to make partition as large as possible during clone! Did you format SSD partition when performing a clean install?

Anyway.... old C (now called D) was working fine before cloning? So you still want the clone?
you attached SSD drive on the place where DVD was and DVD using another connection. What options do you have in bios where you can modify "boot priority"?
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29 Jan 2013   #94

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You use a eSATA-USB kit to attach dvd drive. Are you booting from "USB CD/DVD" or something like that in "boot priority"? Is normal "DVD" drive still listed in boot priority? If so select that as first boot device. Maybe it (tries) boots from SSD then. It can't because it doesn't have an active partition and no bootmanager yet.... but I want to know if it tries to. If possible disable all other entries (temporary) in boot device priority (or called boot device order)
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29 Jan 2013   #95

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Service Pack 1 (build 7601)
 
 

What happened was ... The computer only booted up using the HD and not the SSD after cloning. I even cloned it again trying the Paragon Migrate OS to SSD software. No change.

There was no option showing in BIOS to change the boot from the HD to the SSD, so I marked the HD as inactive because both drives were active. When I did this, the computer couldn't find the OS for it to start up. The computer was basically dead then. All I had was the blue screen. The only option that I knew of to get it going again was to do a clean install with Win 7 disk.

That got me going again. After I marked the partition as inactive, the computer was basically dead. I am still at a nursing home recovering from surgery. I have no access to another computer here. I had no way to get back on the internet that I knew of to get to this site to ask what to do. I was dead in the water, so to speak.

I even looked for ghost drives and didn't see any that I could tell.

I have an appointment. When I get back, I'll work on the last sets of things to do.

Thank you so much for your help.
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29 Jan 2013   #96

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by LeftC View Post
There was no option showing in BIOS to change the boot from the HD to the SSD, so I marked the HD as inactive because both drives were active. When I did this, the computer couldn't find the OS for it to start up. The computer was basically dead then. All I had was the blue screen. The only option that I knew of to get it going again was to do a clean install with Win 7 disk.
What was on the blue screen?

If you boot from Windows 7 install disk press shift-f10 to enter command prompt as described here Command Prompt at Startup

From there you can do
Code:
diskpart
list vol
exit
You see drive letters (can be different as in Windows 7!) . Look at their sizes. Now you know what drive letter is "system reserved", old OS and SSD. Select any volume you want and make it active or inactive. Only one volume can be active on each physical disk.

Code:
diskpart
sel vol  C
active (or inactive)
Mark old C active. Now reboot. It reboots in old C, correct? Check disk management to prove harddisk partition is called C. Delete system reserved if all went fine so far. Delete partition on SSD as well. Do all clone steps again afterwards. Be sure to make partition on SSD as large as possible (you didn't on first try). Be sure SSD is mark active. Mark old C inactive using diskpart as described above.

So actually do all things again. Now boot system. What error message? If error message ... just mark old C active again and reboot.

What options do you have in "boot device order" ... please explain clearly all options you can select there
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29 Jan 2013   #97

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You can also do this

At the Dell logo screeen, tap the F12 key repeatedly until the Please Select Boot Device: menu appears.
What can be selected in that menu. Answer that first prior to cloning.
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29 Jan 2013   #98

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Service Pack 1 (build 7601)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
Config system restore settings System Protection - Turn On or Off
Any ghost disks there? If so disable system protection on that ghost disk. Be sure to enable system protection on C as shown in step 10.

Just turn it on for C.
This is how system protection is set up:
C drive (SSD) On 39%
D drive (HD) Off 20%
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
You did a clean install afterwards.... pffff. Why? You still can't set SSD as boot device in bios?
Yes. Computer couldn't find operating system after I marked the HD as inactive which used to be the boot drive. Just blue screen. Nothing else. Computer sent a message that it couldn't find the OS in the blue screen.

SSD doesn't show up in BIOS. It only shows the following (not necessarily in this order):
- Removeable Drive
- Hard Drive
--- ST1000
- USB
- CD/DVD
- eSATA
- Network

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
So you replaced SSD with standard Windows 7 install. All programs and data are gone?
Yes, but the clone was saved in the "Windows.old" folder. So, it isn't gone.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
Partition on other disk still has a fine working Windows 7 with all stuff?
Everything is still on the origional hard drive. It hasn't been deleted.


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29 Jan 2013   #99

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Service Pack 1 (build 7601)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by LeftC View Post
The 100 MB partition is on the HD instead of the SSD. Is this going to be a problem? How can I fix it? See snip.
Why do you have 13.8GB unallocated space at end of SSD? I told you to make partition as large as possible during clone!
Samsung's Magician software made the 13.8GB of space for garbage collection (over provisioning). See snip below.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
Did you format SSD partition when performing a clean install?
I sure didn't. Did Win 7 format it?
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
Anyway.... old C (now called D) was working fine before cloning?
Yes

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
So you still want the clone?
Good question.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
you attached SSD drive on the place where DVD was and DVD using another connection. What options do you have in bios where you can modify "boot priority"?
SSD is inside the computer when old DVD was. Now DVD is external. These are nicely made kits by NewModeUS.com .

Shows the following (not necessarily in this order):
- Removeable Drive
- Hard Drive
--- ST1000
- USB
- CD/DVD
- eSATA
- Network


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29 Jan 2013   #100

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SSD doesn't show up in BIOS. It only shows the following (not necessarily in this order):
- Removeable Drive
- Hard Drive
--- ST1000
- USB
- CD/DVD
- eSATA
- Network

What do you use when booting from dvd? Is that option DVD or USB (you attached DVD drive on usb port?)
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