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Windows 7: Intel hiding true performance comparison alongside AMD

11 Jan 2013   #11
DeaconFrost

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Erick Aguilar View Post
Other than that, I invite you to do your own research and try to look for benchmark from not so popular benchmarking sites. It is quite interesting that all popular sites incline towards intel, and not so popular show the FX 8350 plow Intel.
You have one fatal flaw in your logic. The larger, more popular sites are the ones willing to stand up to any hardware manufacturer and present accurate findings. The smaller ones don't have that clout, and won't risk losing their hardware supply chains by issuing negative reviews. Many of them can, and have been swayed in the past to skew results. My go to review site is [H]ardOCP.

No one is getting upset about the potential results. The "upset" part is that you created a thread for no reason other than to make a bold claim...and offered no real proof. A YouTube video isn't going to be taken as proof, even if you had given a link, because that isn't how trustworthy reviews are presented to the community.


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11 Jan 2013   #12
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

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Aside from finding a link, feel free to name names for the site(s) in question.
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11 Jan 2013   #13
Erick Aguilar

Windows 7 professional X64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Erick Aguilar View Post
Other than that, I invite you to do your own research and try to look for benchmark from not so popular benchmarking sites. It is quite interesting that all popular sites incline towards intel, and not so popular show the FX 8350 plow Intel.
You have one fatal flaw in your logic. The larger, more popular sites are the ones willing to stand up to any hardware manufacturer and present accurate findings. The smaller ones don't have that clout, and won't risk losing their hardware supply chains by issuing negative reviews. Many of them can, and have been swayed in the past to skew results. My go to review site is [H]ardOCP.

No one is getting upset about the potential results. The "upset" part is that you created a thread for no reason other than to make a bold claim...and offered no real proof. A YouTube video isn't going to be taken as proof, even if you had given a link, because that isn't how trustworthy reviews are presented to the community.
I don't see why a benchmark would be a better proof than actual in game fps performance though?
I mean, if the game is running much better in one CPU, doesn't it mean it is superior than the other in that one instance?

As far as I've known Toms hardware is quite popular for trashing amd all day long. That's for starters.
Then again, I am -not- taking sides, and again, I've had both processors, and time to work with them. Which is why I mentioned it would be better if people who have both processors would be the only ones to chime in.

Me personally, I do not believe in benchmarks as much as people around the gaming community do. I believe in how I see the performance directly in front of my eyes. I see a difference, I see no reason no recommend one CPU more than the other when it comes to that sort of performance. Both are powerfull, however my logic to recommend the 8350 is that you get more for your money, and you can save a lot of money instead of purchasing the now depreciated i5.

I mean, you are more than welcome to share your opinion, but it can be difficult to get as granted if you yourself haven't used both CPU's in question. Right?
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11 Jan 2013   #14
Erick Aguilar

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 View Post
Aside from finding a link, feel free to name names for the site(s) in question.
Lets begin with toms hardware?
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11 Jan 2013   #15
Erick Aguilar

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11 Jan 2013   #16
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Erick Aguilar View Post
As far as I've known Toms hardware is quite popular for trashing amd all day long. That's for starters.
I've always avoided Tom's, because I believe they were one of the sites exposed by [H]ardOCP for taking cash in exchange for favorable reviews.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Erick Aguilar View Post
I mean, you are more than welcome to share your opinion, but it can be difficult to get as granted if you yourself haven't used both CPU's in question. Right?
You seem to be completely missing my point. I'm not debating your opinion or which processor is better. I'm discussing the video "review" and your comments on how to judge a benchmark site. If the AMD is a better bang for the buck, so be it. Good for them. My only opinion I gave on the processor debate is with regard to chipsets, that's all.
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11 Jan 2013   #17
Erick Aguilar

Windows 7 professional X64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Erick Aguilar View Post
As far as I've known Toms hardware is quite popular for trashing amd all day long. That's for starters.
I've always avoided Tom's, because I believe they were one of the sites exposed by [H]ardOCP for taking cash in exchange for favorable reviews.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Erick Aguilar View Post
I mean, you are more than welcome to share your opinion, but it can be difficult to get as granted if you yourself haven't used both CPU's in question. Right?
You seem to be completely missing my point. I'm not debating your opinion or which processor is better. I'm discussing the video "review" and your comments on how to judge a benchmark site. If the AMD is a better bang for the buck, so be it. Good for them. My only opinion I gave on the processor debate is with regard to chipsets, that's all.
And all I told you was that I didn't have the option to get into youtube at work really.. I do respect your opinion on chipsets, as I said, I am not defying any opinion whatsoever in this conversation.
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11 Jan 2013   #18
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Thanks! Let me say first I am not a gamer. As some commenters pointed out at stock CPU speeds there is not a level playing field since the AMD is 4GHz and the Intels are 3.3 and 3.4, I think.
I suspect since AMD now owns the former ATI company they may be targeting in-game performance instead of overall PC performance.

In day-to-day use my Intel i5-2550K buries the FX6100 I had before. Just some rambling thought.
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11 Jan 2013   #19
Erick Aguilar

Windows 7 professional X64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 View Post
Thanks! Let me say first I am not a gamer. As some commenters pointed out at stock CPU speeds there is not a level playing field since the AMD is 4GHz and the Intels are 3.3 and 3.4, I think.
I suspect since AMD now owns the former ATI company they may be targeting in-game performance instead of overall PC performance.

In day-to-day use my Intel i5-2550K buries the FX6100 I had before. Just some rambling thought.
Oh!
Well, isn't the 6100 bulldozer? I have to say that architecture was terrible
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11 Jan 2013   #20
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

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LOL, yes it is, and my Intel is a Sandy Bridge and not Ivy Bridge.

In my experience I can't disagree with your assessment of Bulldozer.
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