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Windows 7: Ivy Bridge IHS

25 Feb 2013   #21
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Return Merchandise Authorization, believe me, I should know. However, Lady Fitzgerald is correct in her use of the abbreviation, but the Manufacturers' call it an RMA also.


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25 Feb 2013   #22
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Hum well I just refer the darn things as Return To Manufacturer as about as basic as it could get I reckon there seems to be a lot of quibbling about a reference term.

The real issue in my mind is would you take out the gearbox of a new car disassemble it put it back together and expect it to work and if it didn't do you think for one moment the car maker is going to put in a new gearbox for free!! If one does then you must believe in the tooth fairy

Nobody - they will know if the CPU has been tampered with simply because of all the compound you replaced as one detail that will not escape their notice, plus any marks you have inscribed on the surfaces of the heat spreader plate and the chip "board". Notwithstanding when we are talking about this sort of money they are not going to replace it in a million years. Can you imagine if they did that every time sometime took it upon themselves to attempt repairs like this on one of their CPU's how much it would cost them when those CPU's were returned.

To be absolutely frank that fellow in that video was irresponsible in the extreme to show what he does himself in private - in public on YouTube. It has left you in my tiny mind in a very unsavoury and vulnerable position and probably up for the cost of not only the CPU but also getting the board checked out.

I truly feel sorry for you and do hope you do get some satisfaction out of all this but I for one will not be holding my breath.
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26 Feb 2013   #23
Britton30
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by N0b0dy View Post
I did the normal procedure. My CPU was about 45-57c on idle. Not overclocked with stock cooling.
That is the major cause of Ivy and Sandybridge high temps. Overclocked or not, they get hot under stress tests.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by N0b0dy View Post
I've read a article about the Ivy Bridge chips. All chips have cheap thermal paste between the heat spreader and the die. Maybe when i glue the head spreader back on, Intel will replace the broken CPU ? (if the CPU is broken)
I would say no. You broke it when you delidded it.


To the off topic topic. RMA has come to be used as a verb too in practice, "I will RMA this" It technically refers to a number a manufacturer give for the return of a defective item. It's the dynamics of American English in the vein that Kleenex and Frigidaire, both brand names, are used generically for facial tissue and refrigerators, respectively.
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26 Feb 2013   #24
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

I would tend to agree Gary.

Nobody, when you delided the chip, did you happen to notice all the thick heavy glue used to glue the IHS down? That is the problem that causes the heat. The thermal paste Intel uses is good, the heavy glue keeps the IHS from making good contact with the actual CPU. That is the problem. You will notice in your video, he went to a lot of trouble to get it off and did not replace it. That was for a reason.
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27 Feb 2013   #25
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by N0b0dy View Post
I did the normal procedure. My CPU was about 45-57c on idle. Not overclocked with stock cooling.
That is the major cause of Ivy and Sandybridge high temps. Overclocked or not, they get hot under stress tests.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by N0b0dy View Post
I've read a article about the Ivy Bridge chips. All chips have cheap thermal paste between the heat spreader and the die. Maybe when i glue the head spreader back on, Intel will replace the broken CPU ? (if the CPU is broken)
I would say no. You broke it when you delidded it.


To the off topic topic. RMA has come to be used as a verb too in practice, "I will RMA this" It technically refers to a number a manufacturer give for the return of a defective item. It's the dynamics of American English in the vein that Kleenex and Frigidaire, both brand names, are used generically for facial tissue and refrigerators, respectively.
Yes Gary just about what I ranted about and I prefer the "generic" Return To Manufacturer (RTM) if if you are going to use acronyms all the time - I think quibbling about stuff like that is a bit of a nonsense.
At uni courses we used to quote the whole phrase and then enclosed the initials in brackets (as above) for further reference and to stop having to repeat oneself - well that was / is the accepted way of doing things where I have done any training and also in my day to day work.
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14 Mar 2013   #26
N0b0dy

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICit2lol View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by N0b0dy View Post
I did the normal procedure. My CPU was about 45-57c on idle. Not overclocked with stock cooling.
That is the major cause of Ivy and Sandybridge high temps. Overclocked or not, they get hot under stress tests.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by N0b0dy View Post
I've read a article about the Ivy Bridge chips. All chips have cheap thermal paste between the heat spreader and the die. Maybe when i glue the head spreader back on, Intel will replace the broken CPU ? (if the CPU is broken)
I would say no. You broke it when you delidded it.


To the off topic topic. RMA has come to be used as a verb too in practice, "I will RMA this" It technically refers to a number a manufacturer give for the return of a defective item. It's the dynamics of American English in the vein that Kleenex and Frigidaire, both brand names, are used generically for facial tissue and refrigerators, respectively.
Yes Gary just about what I ranted about and I prefer the "generic" Return To Manufacturer (RTM) if if you are going to use acronyms all the time - I think quibbling about stuff like that is a bit of a nonsense.
At uni courses we used to quote the whole phrase and then enclosed the initials in brackets (as above) for further reference and to stop having to repeat oneself - well that was / is the accepted way of doing things where I have done any training and also in my day to day work.
Well i contacted Intel shipped my broken CPU back and they gave me a new one. Just got it today
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14 Mar 2013   #27
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Great job, I know you feel better now.
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14 Mar 2013   #28
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
Great job, I know you feel better now.
and I would add extremely lucky knowing mine I would have been sent to the old one back and told to buy new
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14 Mar 2013   #29
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Maybe Intel has realized they screwed up with the thermal stuff they put in the Ivy Bridge package.
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14 Mar 2013   #30
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

May be Gary. I know of someone else on OCN that had the same thing happen and Intel RMA'd it for him. I thought that was just a fluke, but maybe not.
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