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Windows 7: Need advice for new hardware for Win7 Desktop PC

25 Feb 2013   #11
indianacarnie

 

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25 Feb 2013   #12
Valsako

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Oh okay, wasn't sure if it was DDR3 or 4, I just remembered it was one of the two. xD
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25 Feb 2013   #13
Thorsen

Win7 Home Premium 64x
 
 

from your specs you say your mobo is this: Foxconn 2ABF Mainboard Specs

For the HP Pavillion.


the specs say you could upgrade your CPU to a few different options. Here is your where your current CPU stands: PassMark CPU Lookup

Quote:
Processor Support Socket LGA 1155. (Sandy Bridge) (MAX 95W) Intel Core i7-2700 (K), 2600 (K) Quad Core, Core i5 2500 (K), 2400, 2300 Quad Core, Core i3 Dual Core, Pentium G630, G620 Dual Core.
Not sure if this is compatible from the list, but this would be good little boost up if your going for budget ($74.99) not sure if its worth the money as an upgrade standpoint though PassMark - Intel Pentium G2120 @ 3.10GHz - Price performance comparison

otherwise, the i7-2700K looks like the best option, but has a much higher price point (~$290.00)
CM8062301124100 Intel Core i7 Processor i7-2700K 3.5GHz 5.0GT/s 8MB LGA 1155 CPU, OEM - Intel Core i7 - SuperBiiz.com

Another thing to think about is replacing the motherboard as it is a stock board from HP. you probably won't be able to overclock anything with the HP mobo (if that's a desire). Might increase your price range for the rebuild. If you look into this, just make sure RAM and other components are compatible.

Also it is listed as a Micro-ATX board, so I would measure the space to make sure the GTX 680 will fit in the case.

And you said your PSU was good, but I don't see any specs for it. If it is stock, I would replace that as well when you get a chance just out of care for PC to have a good PSU. The 680 will need a 550W+ PSU or you might not have {2} 6-pin cables free on the current PSU. Just check to make sure. PSU specs can be found on the PSU hardware.

GTX 680 power requirements can be found here:
PSU REQUIREMENTS - RealHardTechX

Oh and good luck with the upgrade and welcome to SevenForums if you have questions on anything, just ask
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25 Feb 2013   #14
bobkn

Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Valsako View Post
Okay, so far, this is what I have for what I'll be upgrading to:

Processor: AMD Phenom II, or intel i5 3570k (whichever is compatible)

Cores: Quad Core

Memory: 16 GB DDR4 RAM

SSD: M4 Crucial

Graphics card: Nvidia GTX 680

Any other suggestions?
The AMD Phenom II won't fit your current motherboard. Your board is Socket 1155, and it has no pins on the CPU, unlike the AMD chips. (Intel uses an LGA, land grid array, with pads on the CPU that are contacted by pins in the socket.)

An I5-3570k would physically fit the socket. Your motherboard appears to use an H61 chipset, which can support Ivy Bridge CPUs. (I'm a little surprised by that, but it seems to be true.) Whether HP offers a BIOS that supports Ivy Bridge is another issue.

As others have remarked. there is no DDR4 on the market at this time. There are no motherboards that can use it.

As regards the GTX680, my favorite graphic card maker recommends at least a 550W PSU with 38A on the +12V rail:

EVGA | Products | EVGA GeForce GTX 680 | 02G-P4-2680-KR

Does your HP have that?

If you're getting a $200+ CPU, plus a $400+ graphics, and a new power supply, you may want to go the whole hog (hope you're not a Vegan) and get a new motherboard and case. You can get a serviceable full ATX Asus Z77 motherboard for around $150, and a mid tower ATX case for $40-80.

I recommend getting away from appliance PCs.
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26 Feb 2013   #15
KKS21199

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

ya ddr4 is not being available in most countries so it is hard to get it now which mother board are you using. You could upgrade you processor to i7 so the speed is unlimited for gaming and amd for graphics, use a good motherboard and also use quad core ram, try inserting atleast 4 piece of ram so your pc can oveclock when needed
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26 Feb 2013   #16
Valsako

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bobkn View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Valsako View Post
Okay, so far, this is what I have for what I'll be upgrading to:

Processor: AMD Phenom II, or intel i5 3570k (whichever is compatible)

Cores: Quad Core

Memory: 16 GB DDR4 RAM

SSD: M4 Crucial

Graphics card: Nvidia GTX 680

Any other suggestions?
The AMD Phenom II won't fit your current motherboard. Your board is Socket 1155, and it has no pins on the CPU, unlike the AMD chips. (Intel uses an LGA, land grid array, with pads on the CPU that are contacted by pins in the socket.)

An I5-3570k would physically fit the socket. Your motherboard appears to use an H61 chipset, which can support Ivy Bridge CPUs. (I'm a little surprised by that, but it seems to be true.) Whether HP offers a BIOS that supports Ivy Bridge is another issue.

As others have remarked. there is no DDR4 on the market at this time. There are no motherboards that can use it.

As regards the GTX680, my favorite graphic card maker recommends at least a 550W PSU with 38A on the +12V rail:

EVGA | Products | EVGA GeForce GTX 680 | 02G-P4-2680-KR

Does your HP have that?

If you're getting a $200+ CPU, plus a $400+ graphics, and a new power supply, you may want to go the whole hog (hope you're not a Vegan) and get a new motherboard and case. You can get a serviceable full ATX Asus Z77 motherboard for around $150, and a mid tower ATX case for $40-80.

I recommend getting away from appliance PCs.
I don't know whether it has Ivy Bridge support or not, but I'll be taking it over to the local Computer Deli to have them upgrade it anyway (I'm not touching this thing myself xD), and I'd just have them tell me whether it'd be compatible or not.

Yeah, it was so long ago that I got the memory put in this and I've been busy with so many thing, I just forgot whether it was DDR3 or 4.

Not entirely sure. Any way to find that out?

I'm not a Vegan. And, alright, I'll look into that. :P



Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Thorsen View Post
from your specs you say your mobo is this: Foxconn 2ABF Mainboard Specs

For the HP Pavillion.


the specs say you could upgrade your CPU to a few different options. Here is your where your current CPU stands: PassMark CPU Lookup

Quote:
Processor Support Socket LGA 1155. (Sandy Bridge) (MAX 95W) Intel Core i7-2700 (K), 2600 (K) Quad Core, Core i5 2500 (K), 2400, 2300 Quad Core, Core i3 Dual Core, Pentium G630, G620 Dual Core.
Not sure if this is compatible from the list, but this would be good little boost up if your going for budget ($74.99) not sure if its worth the money as an upgrade standpoint though PassMark - Intel Pentium G2120 @ 3.10GHz - Price performance comparison

otherwise, the i7-2700K looks like the best option, but has a much higher price point (~$290.00)
CM8062301124100 Intel Core i7 Processor i7-2700K 3.5GHz 5.0GT/s 8MB LGA 1155 CPU, OEM - Intel Core i7 - SuperBiiz.com

Another thing to think about is replacing the motherboard as it is a stock board from HP. you probably won't be able to overclock anything with the HP mobo (if that's a desire). Might increase your price range for the rebuild. If you look into this, just make sure RAM and other components are compatible.

Also it is listed as a Micro-ATX board, so I would measure the space to make sure the GTX 680 will fit in the case.

And you said your PSU was good, but I don't see any specs for it. If it is stock, I would replace that as well when you get a chance just out of care for PC to have a good PSU. The 680 will need a 550W+ PSU or you might not have {2} 6-pin cables free on the current PSU. Just check to make sure. PSU specs can be found on the PSU hardware.

GTX 680 power requirements can be found here:
PSU REQUIREMENTS - RealHardTechX

Oh and good luck with the upgrade and welcome to SevenForums if you have questions on anything, just ask
Okay, I'll see what I can get done. xD

I'm working with $900 here, $500 of which is going on the graphics card alone, leaving me with $400 to get the other parts with. The SSD I'm getting is the M4 Crucial, which costs about $130 according to google, so that brings me to $270, then the processor I'm getting, the intel i5 3570k or i5 2500, costs $200, which brings me to $70...

So, replacing the Motherboard with $70 might be tricky, to say the least.

Is there anything I'm considering getting that would be considered less important, that I could just get later on? Or is there at least a cheaper alternative for some of the parts, without sacrificing too much quality? xD
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26 Feb 2013   #17
KKS21199

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Valsako View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bobkn View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Valsako View Post
Okay, so far, this is what I have for what I'll be upgrading to:

Processor: AMD Phenom II, or intel i5 3570k (whichever is compatible)

Cores: Quad Core

Memory: 16 GB DDR4 RAM

SSD: M4 Crucial

Graphics card: Nvidia GTX 680

Any other suggestions?
The AMD Phenom II won't fit your current motherboard. Your board is Socket 1155, and it has no pins on the CPU, unlike the AMD chips. (Intel uses an LGA, land grid array, with pads on the CPU that are contacted by pins in the socket.)

An I5-3570k would physically fit the socket. Your motherboard appears to use an H61 chipset, which can support Ivy Bridge CPUs. (I'm a little surprised by that, but it seems to be true.) Whether HP offers a BIOS that supports Ivy Bridge is another issue.

As others have remarked. there is no DDR4 on the market at this time. There are no motherboards that can use it.

As regards the GTX680, my favorite graphic card maker recommends at least a 550W PSU with 38A on the +12V rail:

EVGA | Products | EVGA GeForce GTX 680 | 02G-P4-2680-KR

Does your HP have that?

If you're getting a $200+ CPU, plus a $400+ graphics, and a new power supply, you may want to go the whole hog (hope you're not a Vegan) and get a new motherboard and case. You can get a serviceable full ATX Asus Z77 motherboard for around $150, and a mid tower ATX case for $40-80.

I recommend getting away from appliance PCs.
I don't know whether it has Ivy Bridge support or not, but I'll be taking it over to the local Computer Deli to have them upgrade it anyway (I'm not touching this thing myself xD), and I'd just have them tell me whether it'd be compatible or not.

Yeah, it was so long ago that I got the memory put in this and I've been busy with so many thing, I just forgot whether it was DDR3 or 4.

Not entirely sure. Any way to find that out?

I'm not a Vegan. And, alright, I'll look into that. :P



Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Thorsen View Post
from your specs you say your mobo is this: Foxconn 2ABF Mainboard Specs

For the HP Pavillion.


the specs say you could upgrade your CPU to a few different options. Here is your where your current CPU stands: PassMark CPU Lookup

Quote:
Processor Support Socket LGA 1155. (Sandy Bridge) (MAX 95W) Intel Core i7-2700 (K), 2600 (K) Quad Core, Core i5 2500 (K), 2400, 2300 Quad Core, Core i3 Dual Core, Pentium G630, G620 Dual Core.
Not sure if this is compatible from the list, but this would be good little boost up if your going for budget ($74.99) not sure if its worth the money as an upgrade standpoint though PassMark - Intel Pentium G2120 @ 3.10GHz - Price performance comparison

otherwise, the i7-2700K looks like the best option, but has a much higher price point (~$290.00)
CM8062301124100 Intel Core i7 Processor i7-2700K 3.5GHz 5.0GT/s 8MB LGA 1155 CPU, OEM - Intel Core i7 - SuperBiiz.com

Another thing to think about is replacing the motherboard as it is a stock board from HP. you probably won't be able to overclock anything with the HP mobo (if that's a desire). Might increase your price range for the rebuild. If you look into this, just make sure RAM and other components are compatible.

Also it is listed as a Micro-ATX board, so I would measure the space to make sure the GTX 680 will fit in the case.

And you said your PSU was good, but I don't see any specs for it. If it is stock, I would replace that as well when you get a chance just out of care for PC to have a good PSU. The 680 will need a 550W+ PSU or you might not have {2} 6-pin cables free on the current PSU. Just check to make sure. PSU specs can be found on the PSU hardware.

GTX 680 power requirements can be found here:
PSU REQUIREMENTS - RealHardTechX

Oh and good luck with the upgrade and welcome to SevenForums if you have questions on anything, just ask
Okay, I'll see what I can get done. xD

I'm working with $900 here, $500 of which is going on the graphics card alone, leaving me with $400 to get the other parts with. The SSD I'm getting is the M4 Crucial, which costs about $130 according to google, so that brings me to $270, then the processor I'm getting, the intel i5 3570k or i5 2500, costs $200, which brings me to $70...

So, replacing the Motherboard with $70 might be tricky, to say the least.

Is there anything I'm considering getting that would be considered less important, that I could just get later on? Or is there at least a cheaper alternative for some of the parts, without sacrificing too much quality? xD
then wait and add some budjet
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26 Feb 2013   #18
Thorsen

Win7 Home Premium 64x
 
 

Another thing to note is that if you replace the MOBO, the OEM Win7 you currently have might not activate. If it was pre-installed, then it can not be used with another system and all new parts will constitute a new system. So you will need to purchase a retail version of win7. So tack on $100 for that as well if you get an OEM copy.

Another thing to note lol is that your current motherboard only has SataII at 3.0/mbs. I am not sure if you could find a cheaper SSD or if you should still go with the newer SataIII SSD.

Not sure if II vs. III will make a difference by that much. hopefully someone else has some input on this (just don't want you to be wasting money on something if you won't benefit from it as much)
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26 Feb 2013   #19
Valsako

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Thorsen View Post
Another thing to note is that if you replace the MOBO, the OEM Win7 you currently have might not activate. If it was pre-installed, then it can not be used with another system and all new parts will constitute a new system. So you will need to purchase a retail version of win7. So tack on $100 for that as well if you get an OEM copy.

Another thing to note lol is that your current motherboard only has SataII at 3.0/mbs. I am not sure if you could find a cheaper SSD or if you should still go with the newer SataIII SSD.

Not sure if II vs. III will make a difference by that much. hopefully someone else has some input on this (just don't want you to be wasting money on something if you won't benefit from it as much)

I'll look into it... This is a lot more complex than I originally thought it would be. xD
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