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Windows 7: Choosing the right Processor?

05 Mar 2013   #1
usernamehere

Windows 7 64bit
 
 
Choosing the right Processor?

Hey sevenforums.com,

First and foremost I would like to say a big hello to everyone here on sevenforums.com I know about this site but just never made an account how lazy of me? .
Second am not sure if this is the right place to post this so please move if I am wrong.

Getting back on topic:

I have been scratching my head now for some time and I just can't choose to which processor I want inside of my new build I have used both Intel and AMD and to me I see no diffident. I mean after all it does its job right?

So I have come here to ask which processor do you think is best and why? The only main diffident I see is that AMD is cheaper (A lot cheaper) and yes am talking about the new ones i.e. i7..

Just for the record this new PC am building will be for gaming (Of course not 100% as do work must be done) But for the main part gaming

Thanks
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05 Mar 2013   #2
TwoCables

 

Generally, Intel's CPUs are faster and better for gaming right now. So, if you can afford to make an Intel system, then don't hesitate.

Are you planning on doing any Overclocking?

If you get an i7 (such as the i7-3770), then I recommend disabling HyperThreading because there's a good chance that you will have superior gaming performance without it. This is because if the game isn't coded to take advantage of HyperThreading, then the CPU has to work harder and that results in worse CPU performance which can result in "jittery" game performance. So of course, I recommend an i5 (like the i5-3570).
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06 Mar 2013   #3
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

I'm with you TC I have the i5 3570K and it works just fine and I think a nice compromise - cost wise at least.

Plus (I stand to be corrected) the Intels seem to have far more support and other hardware that will work with them in particular I found that RAM was far more easily sorted than working out what an AMD would run.

But again same old same old - budget eh?
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06 Mar 2013   #4
Erick Aguilar

Windows 7 professional X64
 
 

There is nothing an AMD processor won't be able to do that an Intel can, and vice versa.
You will not notice a difference whatsoever if you build two rigs for gaming, either AMD, or Intel.

The only game, well, most likely simulator I have encountered a huge difference in when it comes to CPU prefference would be FSX. That's -THE- only game. And I don't really have the smallest steam catalog in the world.

If you can afford the i5-3570k go ahead, it'll behave greatly, and of course it'll most likely do more than you want it to do.

If you want to go cheaper, you can get an AMD FX-6300. It will do just a good a job with gaming. But it doesn't matter. What will matter is your GPU. Period.

I don't understand why people discuss CPU's more when it comes to gaming instead of GPU's nowadays. I rarely see a game that depends on the cpu so much that there will be a huge FPS difference where Intel goes up to 120 FPS, and AMD goes to unplayable framerates. As long as you reach 60FPS you will be in heaven. 50 is more than good. 45 is great. 30 is Okay.

You will not hit less than 50FPS with the best Intel and AMD ''gaming'' CPU. Specially if tied to a good GPU, but GPU's... are another story.
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06 Mar 2013   #5
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

What is your budget for your new build? What parts have you got already for it?
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06 Mar 2013   #6
Thorsen

Win7 Home Premium 64x
 
 

Games have become more CPU intensive and are being coded to take advantage of quad cores, so if you are creeping along with a dual core still, then no matter what GPU you get, the bottleneck will be noticeable. I would say the CPU isn't as important as the GPU obviously as long as you have a quad or better, but eliminating the bottleneck is always a good idea. that and the quality of the motherboard and other components to send all that data efficiently of course.

I have found AMD to be be really go for budget and very fast and the right components overclock easily. I have the FX-6200 and a HD6850 in a system and it handles all I throw at it.

That being said, I might go intel/nvidia for my next build (next year maybe lol) . I like to work with everything I can to build experience and get to try new systems out
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06 Mar 2013   #7
TwoCables

 

I'm a full-time member on Overclock.net. I am literally there for about 18+ hours per day, and I've been there for over 4 years. All I see these days are people recommending Intel over AMD for gaming because Intel CPUs are faster and more powerful. So, I'm just passing along what you would hear/see if you were to take this question to the experts over there, and that is this: go with Intel if you can afford it, otherwise get the best AMD CPU that you can afford.
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06 Mar 2013   #8
Erick Aguilar

Windows 7 professional X64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
I'm a full-time member on Overclock.net. I am literally there for about 18+ hours per day, and I've been there for over 4 years. All I see these days are people recommending Intel over AMD for gaming because Intel CPUs are faster and more powerful. So, I'm just passing along what you would hear/see if you were to take this question to the experts over there, and that is this: go with Intel if you can afford it, otherwise get the best AMD CPU that you can afford.
I understand that.
But even though I've done the same, comparing AMD to Intel is kind of idiotic. They both have processors which are better than the other brands, and vice versa. It all comes down to what you want it to do, and what you can afford.

I don't want to be part of the gaming fad to an extent in which Intel releases ''Gaming CPU's'' and then fall for Intel Shills.

Bottom line is, buy what you can afford, you will not see a difference in gaming if you get the best of what you can afford from both brands.

It's not a big science. And I don't want to make a huge discussion or anything. I just have a hard time understanding the way some people use their logic :/ I mean. I'd love to go intel sometime again, but with the rumor that Intel is discontinuing cpu sockets to start soldering CPU into motherboards, and AMD pushing further with FM2.. I think for the sake of upgradeability.. I'll stay safe with AMD until Intel rumors are gone. I don't want to buy something I won't be able to upgrade without pulling a ''mac'' move.
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06 Mar 2013   #9
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

The only reasons to go with the i7 are if
1) You simply need or want the best
2) You do alot of rendering work (3D renders, cpu based Video encoding etc)

Otherwise those extra threads (thyperthreading) with neither help nor hurt performance. They are just .. there.

I chose the i7 because I do alot of HD video encoding. It did make a difference and I am happy with it. But As many have mentioned, and I too can confirm, it really makes no difference in gaming. Nor does it in general everyday activities.

The i5 is probably the best choice intel side for the a gamer (even hardcore gamers) and those who just use the PC for general things.

However, if you do alot of rendering projects, the i7 will be very good to you.
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06 Mar 2013   #10
Thorsen

Win7 Home Premium 64x
 
 

Intel soldering CPU's into motherboards.... wow. This would drive a lot more interest in AMD if AMD doesn't go this route. I would prefer to be able to replace a component instead of the system. It mentions upgrades as the main disadvantage, but I could see issues where a CPU fails and you have to replace the entire mobo. this is a step back not a step forward in my opinion.

Intel 'preparing' to put an end to user-replaceable CPUs | ZDNet

both houses are doing great as compitition to drive the advancements they have made. And both chip types are great for handling the current gaming/work setups. I can't weigh in on Intel since I have not built a system for it yet. It has been a little out of my budget and not enough gains to justify the price as far as I have seen.

I plan on upping my FX 6200 to the FX 8350. it is about half the price of the i7 3770 and close to the same benchmark. obviously it is lower on the benchmark scale, but for the price i can't justify a 5% gain (in benchmark not sure how this applies in real world) for 35% more money ($120 more)
PassMark - AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core - Price performance comparison
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