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Windows 7: Sheesh, could it just be my chip? (Temperature)

13 Mar 2013   #31
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Gary my Intel chips never show more than 3 degc difference between cores, idle or under load. I would suggest new thermal past and making sure you cpu cooler is mounted correctly and tight.
If you still get the spread of temps it could be the temp monitoring program or just the chip you have. It could also be the cpu cooler you are using.
I use Real Temp and HWMonitor.


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13 Mar 2013   #32
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Jack, I just think I cooked the CPU by going to 100C once. When new the differential was 5C-7C. each one has its quirks.

I have re-re-applied the paste and lapped the base of the cooler, Hyper212 EVO, with 2 fans in push-pull.
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13 Mar 2013   #33
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

That one temp it is measuring might be a general CPU temp, or CPU Package .......which will never be the temp of any of the cores. I think I have lost the purpose of this thread lol. Is he thinking he needs a new cooling solution?
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13 Mar 2013   #34
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

He is wondering why his temps are hotter.
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13 Mar 2013   #35
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

Thank you........I was confused for a minute.

I don't know if this is applicable, or helpful....but here ya go. Shown here is a snippet of AIDA64 and RealTemp running a stress test for about 30-40 minutes. After roughly 5-10 minutes, my CPU Cores are just about as hot as they will ever get. That is how long it takes to register the shock of 100% load. Notice the temps it is monitoring: Motherboard, CPU, Core 1-4, and CPU Package. CPU and CPU Package will sometimes have a value all their own(even though CPU Package in this snippet looks to be similar to the core temp). I don't really know what the CPU temp is measuring, and from what I have read, CPU Package may indicate the temperature of the socket.

I know this is an Intel, and likely may have no relevance to this thread, but it is showing that there is a big difference between CPU and Core, and sometimes CPU package temps. Also, all of these programs that measure temps, may be measuring something other than CPU Core temps. Just a thought.

Sheesh, could it just be my chip? (Temperature)-cpu-temps.jpg


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13 Mar 2013   #36
Erick Aguilar

Windows 7 professional X64
 
 

CPU package temps are ridiculous when I test and look at HWmonitor, listing my package temp at 105 celcius.
First time I saw though.. I went crazy.

I decided to purchase a new power supply since I managed to get my chip to 4.4GHZ but not stable, I am guessing it has to do with voltage. Temperatures are fine, and system has not acted up due temperatures. Core temperature reached 65 at 4.4GZ with 1.46 volts
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14 Mar 2013   #37
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Hum Erick has got me thinking and I know that has got a few panicking probably but I am just wondering if perhaps the PSU is "over volting" the CPU.

Now that maybe a faulty sensing issue on the core/s or the board.
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14 Mar 2013   #38
Erick Aguilar

Windows 7 professional X64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICit2lol View Post
Hum Erick has got me thinking and I know that has got a few panicking probably but I am just wondering if perhaps the PSU is "over volting" the CPU.

Now that maybe a faulty sensing issue on the core/s or the board.
I believe it's actually undervolting. I set 1.46 on the BIOS, but tests show 1.42 as top voltage.
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14 Mar 2013   #39
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Erick Aguilar View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICit2lol View Post
Hum Erick has got me thinking and I know that has got a few panicking probably but I am just wondering if perhaps the PSU is "over volting" the CPU.

Now that maybe a faulty sensing issue on the core/s or the board.
I believe it's actually undervolting. I set 1.46 on the BIOS, but tests show 1.42 as top voltage.
Ok Erick as I don't know of anyway to test the mobo or core sensing devices I suppose one will have to rely on readouts of the machine. I am assuming you have already tested the output from the PSU so that is probably out as a cause for that under volting.

It almost makes you think that the CPU is trying to compensate for it somehow via the motherboard.
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14 Mar 2013   #40
Erick Aguilar

Windows 7 professional X64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICit2lol View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Erick Aguilar View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICit2lol View Post
Hum Erick has got me thinking and I know that has got a few panicking probably but I am just wondering if perhaps the PSU is "over volting" the CPU.

Now that maybe a faulty sensing issue on the core/s or the board.
I believe it's actually undervolting. I set 1.46 on the BIOS, but tests show 1.42 as top voltage.
Ok Erick as I don't know of anyway to test the mobo or core sensing devices I suppose one will have to rely on readouts of the machine. I am assuming you have already tested the output from the PSU so that is probably out as a cause for that under volting.

It almost makes you think that the CPU is trying to compensate for it somehow via the motherboard.
And Just like that I was able to hit 4.4GHZ somewhat stably at 1.45 real volts. But a little too close to the TJ max I set as 74. I will invest in a Noctua NH-D14. Not only for overclocking purposes, but for the upcoming summer.
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