Windows 7 Forums

Welcome to Windows 7 Forums. Our forum is dedicated to helping you find support and solutions for any problems regarding your Windows 7 PC be it Dell, HP, Acer, Asus or a custom build. We also provide an extensive Windows 7 tutorial section that covers a wide range of tips and tricks.


Windows 7: Demise 1155??

21 May 2013   #11
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

I just read this and they come up with this ridiculous explanation that being "fixed" makes the chip more efficient and faster because of shorter leads and improved thermal dissipation (trough the board??) etc etc ad nauseum as if what we have now isn't fast enough and the heat issue reasonably well under control.
Ball grid array - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I suppose in fairness there may be a place for this stuff in say a server where a board could be slipped out and replaced but for us an absolutely no brainer from Dimtel.

I am with TC if this does happen then I will be off to AMD and let Intel shoot themselves in both feet.

Again I wonder what the board manufacturers will be thinking - if it were me I would be getting a tad nervous re using Dimtel.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
.
21 May 2013   #12
TwoCables

 

Dimtel! lol
My System SpecsSystem Spec
21 May 2013   #13
TVeblen

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1
 
 

I am sure that the BGA design will be incorporated into a whole new product line. What I am not sure of is whether Intel intends to eliminate any future LGA product line. That seems to be the speculation of the writers, but I don't hear the words from Intel.

Keep in mind that the market is all about laptops, tablets, and phones now for these guys. The desktop PC market is pretty much an afterthought. "We have lots of exciting new stuff!!! - and, oh, yeah, we make some PC stuff too".
My System SpecsSystem Spec
.

21 May 2013   #14
TVeblen

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1
 
 

My System SpecsSystem Spec
21 May 2013   #15
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
Dimtel! lol
Thought you might like that I did some other looking round and came across this Intel Reveals the End is Near for its Desktop Motherboards it has some other rather depressing links and after spending what I consider a fair bit of my hard earned money with Dimtel over the years personally I am beginning to feel very disappointed to put it mildly I would use words that would probably get me banned but being thrown to the lions is not my idea of enjoying oneself.

It occurs to me that corporate greed and appeal to the mindless masses is the all important issue and the be all and end all for this once great company which in my mind is sinking into the pit of ultimate apathy when it comes to the likes of us who enjoy building, fixing,and generally using our computers as we know them.

So I am banking on your thoughts that AMD will take over - I don't know about you but truthfully I don't care that much if one processor is two nano seconds quicker than the next is it really that important? when really your life is measured in such a short time span anyway. Better that I can do what I do now rather than have to go along with some SA Dimtel designer and developers.

I suppose one bit of good news to come out of this will be for AMD in that some of us will swing to them maybe it is the break they need??
My System SpecsSystem Spec
21 May 2013   #16
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

It could very easily be Intel is just trying to improve their motherboard sales. Most who build don't use Intel boards. I have a Intel board in my grandpa computer by choice. It works great but very limited options. I believe the all-in-one will be marketed to the PC builders like Dell, HP ect. It would improve their motherboard sales in huge numbers and the big builders will go for it with joy. We have already seen great strides in on board videos chips.
On board video chips and cpu's would make it great for big builders. Pop the motherboard in and all warranty for most things is covered by Intel as a unit. On the wrong side of the tracks we call that a (Slam bang thank you Mam)
My System SpecsSystem Spec
21 May 2013   #17
bobafetthotmail

Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICit2lol View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
Dimtel! lol
Thought you might like that I did some other looking round and came across this Intel Reveals the End is Near for its Desktop Motherboards
Yeah, considering that the Intel boards were between crappy and average, that's a good move. Let ASUS/Gigabyte/Asrock/MSI/whatever do their thing.

Please note the last line Intel will continue to design and engineer chipsets.
The chipset is the heart of a mobo, and they still need one anyway unless they go the SoC way ala ARM processors.

Besides, having some moderate experience in de-soldering BGA stuff with a heatgun, I don't see why you cannot design an aftermarket socket to fit the BGA processor. You make contact on the blobs of solder instead, so what? Something like this that I think is what is used during in-house testing anyway.
Then you just shift the market of processors, instead of buying them from Intel or general sellers you buy them from a board manufacturer. Maybe providing proof that you have one of their boards to mount it on.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
21 May 2013   #18
TwoCables

 

Oh, this seems like more of the same to me. It has more of a positive spin on it, but I think that it's still the same at its heart: it's all unclear. Although, that's normal for Intel. lol


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICit2lol View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
Dimtel! lol
Thought you might like that I did some other looking round and came across this Intel Reveals the End is Near for its Desktop Motherboards it has some other rather depressing links and after spending what I consider a fair bit of my hard earned money with Dimtel over the years personally I am beginning to feel very disappointed to put it mildly I would use words that would probably get me banned but being thrown to the lions is not my idea of enjoying oneself.

It occurs to me that corporate greed and appeal to the mindless masses is the all important issue and the be all and end all for this once great company which in my mind is sinking into the pit of ultimate apathy when it comes to the likes of us who enjoy building, fixing,and generally using our computers as we know them.

So I am banking on your thoughts that AMD will take over - I don't know about you but truthfully I don't care that much if one processor is two nano seconds quicker than the next is it really that important? when really your life is measured in such a short time span anyway. Better that I can do what I do now rather than have to go along with some SA Dimtel designer and developers.

I suppose one bit of good news to come out of this will be for AMD in that some of us will swing to them maybe it is the break they need??
But all they're saying is that they're no longer going to be making their own motherboards. I honestly couldn't care less because the only motherboards worth purchasing anyway are the ones made by companies like ASUS, Gigabyte, ASRock, etc. So, Intel's motherboards won't be missed at all. It would be like ECS or Jetway saying that they're no longer making motherboards. Most enthusiasts would be like, "lol go tell someone who cares. Your motherboards sucked anyway".

So, I'm kind of glad that they're going to be done making their own motherboards because to be honest, I find that it's easier to help someone with their system if they have a motherboard made by companies like ASUS, Gigabyte, ASRock, etc., especially if they want to do any overclocking.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
21 May 2013   #19
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Well whatever they are inclined to do from blobs of solder - in my experience a real retrograde step because whatever it is soldered in or solder on solder the material is not up to scratch as far as I am concerned as I have and I expect a lot of others will have had to fix dry joints easily oxidised solder to solder surfaces etc.

Look I am frankly past caring what they do CPU wise and if they want to make that component a soldered in job then let them because it to my simple mind makes it no better than the chipset which is already permanently fixed. The same chipset that Bob had said will still be made by these people, but who is to say that sooner or later they don't turn round and demand the board manufacturers will have to have the CPU if they want the chipsets??
I have never considered a Dimtel board I just find that this concept being forced upon the brands we do like is taking away our right of choice as their consumers and not only that makes the whole darn thing a throw away item.

I suppose in a way we have made this rod for our own backs really by demanding better and faster devices and gobbling them up as fast as they can churn them out, and giving them what is to me a monopoly. They (Dimtel) having such a following they have now have got us by the bits that hurt and it is very depressing to know like factory chickens we are going to be turned into a "product" for them to use at leisure.

I feel sorry for the generations coming on as the pleasure of building and owning machines as we have now maybe a thing of the past.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
21 May 2013   #20
smarteyeball

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICit2lol View Post
Maybe it is time to stop where I am.
I know I have. Mostly...

I can't see my pc becoming a slouch any time soon but who knows what the land will be like come complete upgrade time.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Reply

 Demise 1155??




Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search




Similar help and support threads
Thread Forum
2011 or 1155 or 1150
A friend was looking at the water cooling build I have going and got very excited about it. Now he wants a water cooled box and insists it be Intel based. No real budget constraints but don't want to go hog wild either. Most of my build experience is with AMD although I have built a few i5's. ...
PC Custom Builds and Overclocking
LGA 1366 or LGA 2011 or LGA 1155
I'm not sure where to post this as there is no specific hardware talk forum without involving Windows 7. What's bugging me right now is the release of Intels new LGA1155 and it's future LGA2011 with and X68 chipset. LGA1366 is defnitly the way to go if you are an enthusiast. TRI-SLI (X58...
Hardware & Devices
Trying to decide on new Motherboard for replacement 1155.
Hey guys, new to the board although i been in the BSOD thread for awhile now trying to fix BSOD issues but ive come to the conclusion its my MB and here is my current MB also btw. Newegg.com - ASUS P8P67 DELUXE (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS...
Hardware & Devices


Our Sites

Site Links

About Us

Find Us

Windows 7 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 7" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

Designer Media Ltd

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:27.

Twitter Facebook Google+



Windows 7 Forums

Seven Forums Android App Seven Forums IOS App