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Windows 7: What components make enterprise HDDs more reliable than consumer HDDs?

23 May 2013   #11
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 0pTicaL View Post
I believe that's their Red line of drives. Their blues and blacks seem to be OK.
See, here's what backs up my point. I'm using several RED drives, with no issues. They are fast and relatively cheap.


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23 May 2013   #12
0pTicaL

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

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I believe that's their Red line of drives. Their blues and blacks seem to be OK.
See, here's what backs up my point. I'm using several RED drives, with no issues. They are fast and relatively cheap.
It reinforces Google's HDD study. Like the report stated it also depends on "vintage". Same people can get the same brand and line of drives but made from a different year and yield completely different results.
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23 May 2013   #13
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

I believe it was Western Digital Green drives that were flawed from the start. In many cases, the different year means different firmware which was the problem with Seagates 7200.11 drives, I believe. The 7200.12 drives turned out to be quite good because the firmware was updated. I own a few and have had no problem with any of them.
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24 May 2013   #14
jeffshead

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 0pTicaL View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 0pTicaL View Post
I believe that's their Red line of drives. Their blues and blacks seem to be OK.
See, here's what backs up my point. I'm using several RED drives, with no issues. They are fast and relatively cheap.
It reinforces Google's HDD study. Like the report stated it also depends on "vintage". Same people can get the same brand and line of drives but made from a different year and yield completely different results.
I don't think brand matters much theses days as long as you stick to one of the top five. I've had to replace equal amounts of WD and Seagate.

As far as desktop vs. enterprise grade, it wouldn't surprise me if the only major differences are the plants they come out of and the warranty. Not saying that's so, just wouldn't be surprised. The warranty that comes with new, desktop HDD's stinks! When they used to come with a five year warranty, I never considered purchasing enterprise level HDD's for my personal use PC's. I think manufacturers finally realized this.

We all get caught up on speed but I believe the slower RPM desktop units that run cooler will be likely to last longer. Actually, some of the newer, lower RPM (5,900) units are on par with the higher end 7,200 RPM units.
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24 May 2013   #15
Solarstarshines

Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
I believe it was Western Digital Green drives that were flawed from the start. In many cases, the different year means different firmware which was the problem with Seagates 7200.11 drives, I believe. The 7200.12 drives turned out to be quite good because the firmware was updated. I own a few and have had no problem with any of them.
It's the Green and Eco drives like Steve said the Caviar Blue and Black are there top sellers because they are reliable

I have a WD My book 500GB from like 2007 damn thing acts like it did the day we turned it on so no issues there

For me I just more familiar with Seagate as I used them longer nothing wrong with WD even Maxtor Toshiba drives it all boils down to what you feel works best for you

You wouldn't buy a Ford if you were a Chevy man would you ? pretty much same thing in a sense but most general people will go with the best bang for the buck not what performs better because performance cost money and not only you but everyone else think same thing less speed but save some money
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24 May 2013   #16
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
I believe it was Western Digital Green drives that were flawed from the start. In many cases, the different year means different firmware which was the problem with Seagates 7200.11 drives, I believe. The 7200.12 drives turned out to be quite good because the firmware was updated. I own a few and have had no problem with any of them.
It was the Seagate 7200.11s. I got burned by two of them (one died after a year; the other one had bad sectors when I received it and the vendor weaseled out of replacing it). What really left the bad taste in my mouth was the way Seagate tried to keep the problem quiet and wouldn't even acknowledge that there was a problem with the run for quite some time.

Some of the earlier WD Greens had problems with the heads repeatedly parking themselves when idle, creating a faint clicking noise, wearing themselves out prematurely. I use 2TB Greens to back up the WD Blacks in my machine. One of the drives sounds like it may be a clicker but, since it doesn't get plugged into my computer except for during a backup, it sees very little idle time so I'm not worried about it since I do have a spare (I have a total of seven, one being an accidental spare). If it does die (which probably will be well out of warranty since it gets plugged in for less than hour only once a week), I do have that spare to replace it with. I'm not worried about losing data since I make two backups, one right after the other, when doing my weekly backups. I also have a third back up that resides in a safe deposit box at my credit union that gets renewed no less than once a month (actually, I swap drives to keep them in rotation and to avoid an extra trip to the credit union each time). In addition to that, I use Carbonite for a continuous back up to the cloud.

Another reason for the bad rap the Greens have been getting is they were getting used for combined boot and data drives (the head parking when idle feature, among other things, caused a lot of "interesting" problems with the OS) and in NAS systems (again, the head parking when idle feature frequently caused grief with the RAIDs). The REDS were developed to provide "green" advantages (lower power usage and less expensive) and still be compatible with a RAIDed NAS.
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24 May 2013   #17
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jeffshead View Post
...As far as desktop vs. enterprise grade, it wouldn't surprise me if the only major differences are the plants they come out of and the warranty. Not saying that's so, just wouldn't be surprised...
I checked the 2TB enterprise WDs on NewEgg and they have the same warranty—five years—that the WD Blacks have. I was too lazy to check any of the others out. Considering how anally I back up my data, I don't feel it's worth the extra expense to get a WD enterprise over a Black since I gain no warranty advantage.
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24 May 2013   #18
0pTicaL

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

I think I shouldn't have to worry too much since I'm building a RAID10 array with the Lian Li EX-503 I ordered last week.

The only thing I don't really understand is what happens to the 5th drive in a RAID10 array.
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