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Windows 7: New Computer not powering on,is it because of not powerful enough PSU?

02 Jun 2013   #21
TwoCables

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICit2lol View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
Well, I would still like to know what PSU you ended up with, uilymmot.
Me too as per my post before yours TC!

I am as you know all for a bit of leeway with some people doing some strange or funny things but am just a little "taken aback' by this thread to be honest if it weren't so time wasting it would be funny and not in a hilarious manner.
If he didn't blow up his PSU, then his original post would still apply. He bought a new one when that happened, and now I'm worried that he may have stuck his parents with a PSU that should be avoided.


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02 Jun 2013   #22
uilymmot

windows 7 home premium 64 bit
 
 

In the end i got a Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 550W... probably overkill but, at least it works
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02 Jun 2013   #23
TwoCables

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by uilymmot View Post
In the end i got a Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 550W... probably overkill but, at least it works
Oh. They (or you) paid a lot more than had to be paid, but at least it's not a bad PSU. You're right too that it's overkill; it's major overkill, especially for a computer that doesn't have a video card. Even if it had one, you'd need to put the GTX Titan in their to make this PSU worth the purchase. Even then...
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02 Jun 2013   #24
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Yes well as you say TC even then.....
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02 Jun 2013   #25
TwoCables

 

I guess I'm just relieved that it's a safe PSU even though it cost a lot more money than needed to be spent.
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02 Jun 2013   #26
bobafetthotmail

Win 7 Pro 64-bit 7601
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
I'm sorry, but this is not true. There are 80+ Certified PSUs that are utter garbage and should be avoided.
Can you make some examples? All 80+ I got (and I got a lot) were flawless regardless of brand (apart from some lemons that were dead from the start, but that's normal with anything). And mind me that I try to put the cheaper ones I can find (while still 80+), as I still like to have a decent profit on the shop's own "quality" builds.
Cheapo builds get crappy PSUs I scavenge from the pallets of old company PCs we buy from time to time. And usually Linux Mint.
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Was the point of this thread telling everybody how you blew up your old PSU by jiggering around with it and a screwdriver? If not, then I think you missed the point of posting in a forum and asking for advice.
It seems like he was using the screwdriver on the mobo pins of the power button, which is a way to power it on without placing there a button. I still prefer to avoid these things, but i's not wrong.
And was asking why everything didn't power up.
Sounds like a reasonable question to me, although not really well-written.
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02 Jun 2013   #27
TwoCables

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bobafetthotmail View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
I'm sorry, but this is not true. There are 80+ Certified PSUs that are utter garbage and should be avoided.
Can you make some examples? All 80+ I got (and I got a lot) were flawless regardless of brand (apart from some lemons that were dead from the start, but that's normal with anything). And mind me that I try to put the cheaper ones I can find (while still 80+), as I still like to have a decent profit.

Quote:
Was the point of this thread telling everybody how you blew up your old PSU by jiggering around with it and a screwdriver? If not, then I think you missed the point of posting in a forum and asking for advice.
It seems like he was using the screwdriver on the mobo pins of the power button, which is a way to power it on without placing there a button. I still prefer to avoid these things, but i's not wrong.
And was asking why everything didn't power up.
Sounds like a reasonable question to me, although not really well-written.
Just from Newegg alone, here are some of the 80+ Certified PSUs (from White to Platinum, sorted by price Lowest to Highest) that I would never recommend. This list is not complete due to not being a complete PSU expert. I only know what I know, and I stick to what I know.
  1. COOLMAX ZX Series ZX-500 500W ATX12V v2.2 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
  2. hec HEC350TA 350W ATX12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Power Supply - Newegg.com
  3. SPARKLE SPI300T8AB-B204 300W TFX12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
  4. RAIDMAX RX-500AF Continuous 500 watts ATX 12V v2.3/EPS 12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Power Supply - Newegg.com
  5. FSP Group FSP300-60GHS-R 300W SFX12V 80 PLUS Certified Power Supply - Newegg.com
  6. Antec Basiq BP430 ATX12V Version 2.2 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
  7. SPARKLE 80+ GREEN 250 R-SPI250EP 250W ATX12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
  8. FSP Group VITAL 500 500W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
  9. COOLMAX ZX Series ZX-700 700W ATX12V v2.2 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
  10. COOLMAX ZX Series ZX-600 600W ATX12V v2.2 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
  11. FSP Group FSP220-60LE(80) 220W Mini ITX/ Flex ATX 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
  12. Newegg.com - Diablotek PDA Series PDA-550BW 550W ATX12V v2.31 & EPS12V v2.92 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply (everything by Diablotek should be avoided)
  13. COUGAR RS-Series RS450 (CGR R-450) 450W ATX12V 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
  14. COUGAR RSB400 400 Watt 80-Plus Power Supply with Active PFC and ULTRA-QUIET & TEMPERATURE-CONTROLLED FAN - Newegg.com
  15. RAIDMAX RX-600AF 600W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Power Supply - Newegg.com (almost all Raidmax PSUs should be avoided)
  16. FSP Group RAIDER 450W (RAIDER 450) ATX12V2.92 80PLUS BRONZE Certified +12V Single rail Power Supply compatible with Intel Core i3 i5 i7 - Newegg.com
  17. FSP Group RAIDER 550W (RAIDER 550) ATX12V2.92 80PLUS BRONZE Certified +12V Single rail Power Supply compatible with Intel Core i3 i5 i7 - Newegg.com
  18. COOLMAX ZU Series ZU-600B 600W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
  19. COOLMAX ZU Series ZU-500B 500W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
  20. COUGAR DX500 500W ATX 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
  21. Fractal Design Integra R2 500W ATX12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Power Supply - Newegg.com
  22. Athena Power AP-MFATX35 350W Mini ITX / Micro FLEX ATX / ATX12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply for many HP Slimline System Upgrades/Replacement - Newegg.com
  23. FSP Group RAIDER 650W (RAIDER 650) ATX12V2.92 SLI Certified 80PLUS BRONZE Certified +12V Single rail Power Supply compatible with Intel Core i3 i5 i7 - Newegg.com
  24. SPARKLE Green R-SPI600GHN 600W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V V2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
  25. COUGAR DX600 600W ATX SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
  26. XION AXP-700K14XE 700W ATX SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80+ Bronze Modular Power Supply - Newegg.com
  27. RAIDMAX Blackstone series RX-700AC 700W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.3 / EPS12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
  28. LOGISYS Computer AT750BK 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com (everything by Logisys should be avoided)
  29. Newegg.com - Diablotek PDA Series PDA-650BW 650W ATX12V v2.31 & EPS12V v2.92 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
  30. StarTech ATX2POWER530 530W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com (everything by StarTech should be avoided)
  31. COOLMAX ZU Series ZU-700B 700W ATX 12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
  32. Newegg.com - Diablotek PDA Series PDA-750BW 750W ATX12V v2.31 & EPS12V v2.92 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
  33. Athena Power AP-MFATX40 400W Mini ITX 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
  34. Fractal Design Integra R2 650W ATX12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Power Supply - Newegg.com
  35. Rosewill Xtreme Series RX850-S-B 850W Continuous @40C ,80 PLUS Certified, ATX12V v2.2 & EPS12V v2.91, SLI Ready CrossFire Ready, Active PFC "Compatible with Core i7, i5" Power Supply - Newegg.com (this is a guess)
  36. FSP Group RAIDER 750W (RAIDER 750) ATX12V2.92 SLI Certified 80PLUS BRONZE Certified +12V Single rail Power Supply compatible with Intel Core i3 i5 i7 - Newegg.com
  37. Rosewill Xtreme Series RX750-S-B 750W Continuous @40C ,80 PLUS Certified, ATX12V v2.2 & EPS12V v2.91, SLI Ready CrossFire Ready, Active PFC Compatible with Core i7, i5 Power Supply - Newegg.com (this is a guess)
  38. COOLMAX ZU Series ZU-800B 800W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
  39. EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750B BRONZE 120-PB-0750-KR 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Power Supply - Newegg.com
  40. TOPOWER TOP-1000WG 1000W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
  41. COOLMAX ZP-750B 750W ATX 12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
  42. XION AXP-850K14XE 850W ATX SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80+ Bronze Modular Power Supply - Newegg.com
  43. COOLMAX ZU Series ZU-900B 900W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
  44. Newegg.com - VisionTek 900489 700W ATX12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Power Supply
  45. RAIDMAX RX-850AE 850W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
  46. XCLIO Goodpower 750W 750W ATX12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
  47. Newegg.com - VisionTek 900490 800W ATX12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Power Supply
  48. Thermaltake Black Widow W0319RU 850W ATX 12V v2.3, EPS 12V v2.91 CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
  49. COOLMAX ZU Series ZU-1000B 1000W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
  50. KINGWIN KX-1000 1000W ATX 12V v2.2, EPS 12V v2.91, and SSI EPS 12V v2.92 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
  51. Newegg.com - VisionTek 900349 800W ATX12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Power Supply
  52. EVGA SuperNOVA NEX650G GOLD 120-PG-0650-GR 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Power Supply - Newegg.com
  53. XION AXP-1000K14XE 1000W ATX SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80+ Bronze Modular Power Supply - Newegg.com
  54. EVGA SuperNOVA NEX750G GOLD 120-PG-0750-GR 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Power Supply - Newegg.com
  55. RAIDMAX RX-1000AE 1000W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
  56. RAIDMAX RX-1200AE 1200W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
  57. Coolmax 1200W ATX12V v2.3 /EPS 12V v2.92 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Newegg.com
  58. Intel 750W Common Redundant Power Supply FXX750PCRPS (Platium-Efficiency) - Newegg.com (lol)
  59. COOLMAX ZPS-1600B (14642) 1600W ATX12V v2.31 & EPS12V v2.92 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com
  60. Thermaltake TR-700P TR2 BRONZE 700W ATX 12V V2.3 / EPS 12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com (currently out of stock, that's why it's down here)
  61. Rosewill BRONZE Series RBR1000-M 1000W Continuous@40C, 80Plus Bronze Certified,Modular Cable Design,ATX12V v2.3/ EPS12V,SLI Ready,CrossFire Ready,Active PFC"Compatible with Core i7, i5" Power Supply - Newegg.com (currently out of stock)

This list could probably be a lot longer because I left out a few dozen because I'm just not 100% sure on them yet. So if you're following along on Newegg and you're noticing that there are some that are left out that look questionable even to you, then it's because I still don't know about them yet. Of course, most of the PSUs I left out are recommendable. If I were to make a list of "I don't know" PSUs, "Questionable" PSUs, and "Recommended" PSUs, then I'd be here for another hour. So just because it's not listed here, it doesn't mean that it's recommendable. Another thing to know is that just because a PSU is recommendable, it doesn't mean that you can't get a better one for about the same price or less! The world of PSUs is very convoluted.

Another thing I should mention is that I really wanted to include most of OCZ's PSUs, but I'm just not 100% sure if a true PSU expert would include them on a list such as this one. I mean, I really wanted to, especially the ones that have a name that makes them sound halfway decent, but I just don't know what a true PSU expert would say about including them on a list like this.

I also wanted to include many of Silverstone's PSUs, but I'm not sure what's good or bad when it comes to their PSUs. I don't know what it is about Silverstone's PSUs, but I just don't pay much attention to them.

So anyway, this is just from Newegg's inventory alone. As you can see, the 80+ Certification doesn't mean anything to me.

The stats:
  • There are 61 PSUs that I decided to list (there are many more that I could have listed, but I wasn't sure of them)
  • 11 of them are White
  • 41 of them are Bronze
  • 8 of them are Gold
  • 1 of them is Platinum (or "Platium" lol)
So as you can see, the 80+ Certification doesn't mean much at all. It's just a marketing trick. What's more important in a PSU is its internal build quality, and just because a PSU has a good 80+ Certification, it doesn't mean that it has a good internal build quality or that it has good capacitors. There used to be a Gold-rated PSU on the market that was so bad that it destroyed the testing equipment that was being used by the reviewer!

Here is an incomplete list of recommendable PSUs. It's important to note that not all of these PSUs are the best one you can get for your money. Some of them are just there in case there aren't any better PSUs available, so the point is: these are all safe to buy:

http://www.overclock.net/t/183810/fa...power-supplies
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02 Jun 2013   #28
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

Quote directly from the OP:

Quote:
well yea... the power supply seemed to be defective as in really defective... when I bridged the pins the 4th time the power supply just blew up, literally, thanks for all your help here
Quote:
It seems like he was using the screwdriver on the mobo pins of the power button, which is a way to power it on without placing there a button. I still prefer to avoid these things, but i's not wrong.
And was asking why everything didn't power up.
Sounds like a reasonable question to me, although not really well-written.
I don't think that was what he was doing. If it was, he didn't do it right. Making a PSU blow up is NOT the right way to do anything.

@ TwoCables: I've only heard positive things about SilverStone power supplies. You might look into them and see if they are decent or not.
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02 Jun 2013   #29
TwoCables

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kbrady1979 View Post
Quote directly from the OP:

Quote:
well yea... the power supply seemed to be defective as in really defective... when I bridged the pins the 4th time the power supply just blew up, literally, thanks for all your help here
Quote:
It seems like he was using the screwdriver on the mobo pins of the power button, which is a way to power it on without placing there a button. I still prefer to avoid these things, but i's not wrong.
And was asking why everything didn't power up.
Sounds like a reasonable question to me, although not really well-written.
I don't think that was what he was doing. If it was, he didn't do it right. Making a PSU blow up is NOT the right way to do anything.
Well, I'm not surprised that this PSU blew up so easily...

It's better that it blew up now rather than slowly causing more and more strange problems over the next year or two.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kbrady1979 View Post
@ TwoCables: I've only heard positive things about SilverStone power supplies. You might look into them and see if they are decent or not.
Well the thing is, I know that there are some very high-end Silverstone PSUs and others that are not so good, but I just haven't kept up with them to really learn what they are. I still don't know why I haven't!

If I had any brains, then I would start studying this to get started:

http://www.overclock.net/t/183810/fa...power-supplies
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02 Jun 2013   #30
kbrady1979

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OK, I'm not sure about all of their lines, but I seem to remember good things about the Strider series. Silverstone has always made quality stuff as far as I know, but like any other company, they have their "value" lines as well.
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