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08 Jun 2013   #81
Razor505

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

I know this post is a bit old, but I also have a question about the case interior, does it matter if it is painted or not? The HAF does not have a painted interior, but the full atx has a painted interior.


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08 Jun 2013   #82
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

It really only matters for looks. The painted interior looks much better, but the non painted versions of any case, as far as I know, do not matter and will last just as long. Plus, if you have the time and inclination to dismantle the case, you can paint the interior yourself.
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08 Jun 2013   #83
Razor505

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
It really only matters for looks. The painted interior looks much better, but the non painted versions of any case, as far as I know, do not matter and will last just as long. Plus, if you have the time and inclination to dismantle the case, you can paint the interior yourself.
I always thought they specially painted the interior with some kind of anti-static paint. Also when I looked at the AMD FX8350, I saw something that just confused me, why does it says Eight-core, but the L2 cache says 4 x 2MB?
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08 Jun 2013   #84
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

As far as I know, the paint on the inside of the case is just to dress it up some. It does nothing for static control. Also, the FX-8350 is NOT a true 8 core CPU. It's more of a 4-core with the cores split in half acting as individual threads......IF I understand it correctly.
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08 Jun 2013   #85
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

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08 Jun 2013   #86
dsperber

Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 (2)
 
 

Actually, the interior of "quiet PC" cases can come with foam sheets that you cut an apply to the interior panels as part of the sound-reduction installation process. There are also foam blocks that you cut and insert into empty 5.25 " and 3.5" drive bays, just to reduce interior noise exiting through openings on the front bezel.

Another well-designed case feature is to have a washable/removable screen mesh (to collect dust and other air-born animal hairs, etc.) on the front bezel interior, over the front-lower case chassis intake fan (which sucks cool outside ear into the case interior lower portion so that it then rises over the interior cards/drives before getting blown out the upper-rear by the exterior exhaust fan mounted on the rear of the chassis. Every so often you remove the front bezel, remove the "dust shield screen" from the interior of the bezel, wash it thoroughly, reinsert it inside the bezel, reattach the front bezel to the case, and you've got your original unimpeded airflow back.

If you put your case on your desk right near you, noise is (for me anyway) a VERY important criteria in choice of the case and also fans. The latest computer I just built about 8 months ago (based on an ASUS P8Z77-V Pro board) uses the same all-black AcoustiCase case I'd purchased some years back specifically for its "quiet PC" characteristics, which is remarkably silent (in terms of letting interior noise escape). This super-silent machine has four internal hard drives (three 7.2kRPM SATA drives and one 10kRPM SATA drive) along with 120mm Noctua NF-P12 120mm fans at front and rear that are essentially silent.

It also uses a 600W Nesteq "modular" power supply, which is very convenient since you only need to plug in cables to feed equipment you actually have, thereby reducing interior "cable clutter" from power supplies that simply come with a big bunch of pre-attached cables all tied up in a bundle. The Nesteq power supply is again very very quiet.

Then, the Noctua NH-U12P CPU cooler I bought for the Intel i5 3350p (no onboard graphics) CPU was also from Noctua, basically a large heatsink sandwiched by a pair of identical NF-P12 PWM fans (arranged in push/pull orientation). Essentially silent again, and remarkably effective in keeping the CPU cool.

So it's really what your requirements are, that determines what equipment you seek out and purchase. In my case I'm not a gamer but I wanted a "silent PC" because I sit at my desk and work for very long extended periods.
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08 Jun 2013   #87
Razor505

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Another question, the motherboard I selected for the build is a Msi 990FXA
Newegg.ca - MSI 990FXA-GD80 V2 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
and the case I selected is a HAF 922, with G.Skill Ripjaws 8GB
Newegg.ca - COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN3-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0 and Black Interior
Newegg.ca - G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-17000CL9D-8GBXM
The power supply is a Corsair CX500
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16817139027
would there be any compatibility issues with these parts? Would there be enough plugs all the stuff on the motherboard? Would this mobo also be better than the the Msi?
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16813131877
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08 Jun 2013   #88
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

I'll get in trouble with a lot of people, but I've had dealings with MSI technical support and they will never get any more of my money. So, take it from that and, I don't know much about the newer AMD boards, but on the Intel side of things, the Sabertooth is an excellent choice.
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08 Jun 2013   #89
Razor505

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
I'll get in trouble with a lot of people, but I've had dealings with MSI technical support and they will never get any more of my money. So, take it from that and, I don't know much about the newer AMD boards, but on the Intel side of things, the Sabertooth is an excellent choice.
The trouble is that the Msi board I found has four PCI slots, the RAM goes up to 2133, there is also some OC stuff, the other Asus board Newegg.ca - ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
doesnt have 4 PCI, the RAM does not support higher, no OC, but there are plenty of USB ports for me. The SaberTooth has lower RAM. What does the RAM DDR3 2133/1866/1600/1333/1066 mean anyways? Is it better the higher the number?
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08 Jun 2013   #90
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

The supported RAM frequency is a tad misleading. The Sabertooth board I have only lists frequencies up to 1866, but I know full well it supports faster RAM than that. Also, how many PCI slots do you really need?
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