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Windows 7: Building a Gaming PC, is this good?

02 Jun 2013   #21
paulpicks21

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

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4.5GHz on a 3570K is a healthy overclock. Anymore and you will start to need a much better cooling solution......in my opinion.
I was reading a review on the i7 4770k today Kelly, I thought ivy was bad for overclocking, but haswell appears to be worse. The most they could get out of it with a h100i was 4.7ghz and it hit 98c. Performance difference over ivy in the benchmarks was not very impressive either, between 4 to 10% . This is fine if you are like the OP coming from much older gen, but I will not be changing.


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02 Jun 2013   #22
CommandoBob

Windows 8 Professional x64
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kbrady1979 View Post
4.5GHz on a 3570K is a healthy overclock. Anymore and you will start to need a much better cooling solution......in my opinion.
I was reading a review on the i7 4770k today Kelly, I thought ivy was bad for overclocking, but haswell appears to be worse. The most they could get out of it with a h100i was 4.7ghz and it hit 98c. Performance difference over ivy in the benchmarks was not very impressive either, between 4 to 10% . This is fine if you are like the OP coming from much older gen, but I will not be changing.
But would the stock frequency of the i7-4670k perform better than an overclocked i5-3570k to 4.5GHz?

EDIT: Those who missed it, my revamped build, it was the last post of the second page so I worried some people might miss it.

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02 Jun 2013   #23
TwoCables

 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kbrady1979 View Post
4.5GHz on a 3570K is a healthy overclock. Anymore and you will start to need a much better cooling solution......in my opinion.
I was reading a review on the i7 4770k today Kelly, I thought ivy was bad for overclocking, but haswell appears to be worse. The most they could get out of it with a h100i was 4.7ghz and it hit 98c. Performance difference over ivy in the benchmarks was not very impressive either, between 4 to 10% . This is fine if you are like the OP coming from much older gen, but I will not be changing.
Yeah, and for this reason, I recommend waiting for several months for Haswell to mature. Intel will surely take notice and release a fixed version that overclocks more normally. So, I'd say that Sandy and Ivy Bridge CPUs are still the best Intel CPUs to purchase right now.
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02 Jun 2013   #24
CommandoBob

Windows 8 Professional x64
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kbrady1979 View Post
4.5GHz on a 3570K is a healthy overclock. Anymore and you will start to need a much better cooling solution......in my opinion.
I was reading a review on the i7 4770k today Kelly, I thought ivy was bad for overclocking, but haswell appears to be worse. The most they could get out of it with a h100i was 4.7ghz and it hit 98c. Performance difference over ivy in the benchmarks was not very impressive either, between 4 to 10% . This is fine if you are like the OP coming from much older gen, but I will not be changing.
Yeah, and for this reason, I recommend waiting for several months for Haswell to mature. Intel will surely take notice and release a fixed version that overclocks more normally. So, I'd say that Sandy and Ivy Bridge CPUs are still the best Intel CPUs to purchase right now.
So I should pick an i5-3570k overclocked to 4.5GHz confronted by the i5-4670k which would be non-overclockable? Sorry for my lack of knowledge on hardware.
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02 Jun 2013   #25
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

No, the new Haswell chips will run about 5-10% better than Ivy Bridge, clock for clock. That is to say the 3570k and 4670k, running at exactly the same frequency, will have about a 5-10% difference in benchmarks.

Also, I heard they should be easier to OC Paul, but I'd not seen anybody with a retail chip trying yet. I made my mind up when I built this rig that I'm not upgrading until there is new technology out....DDR4, SATA Express or better.

I think we are getting things twisted and complicated lol. If I were building a system right now, I would go with the Intel i5-3570K.......I've read that the new chips OC even better than the early ones.
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02 Jun 2013   #26
CommandoBob

Windows 8 Professional x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kbrady1979 View Post
No, the new Haswell chips will run about 5-10% better than Ivy Bridge, clock for clock. That is to say the 3570k and 4670k, running at exactly the same frequency, will have about a 5-10% difference in benchmarks.

Also, I heard they should be easier to OC Paul, but I'd not seen anybody with a retail chip trying yet. I made my mind up when I built this rig that I'm not upgrading until there is new technology out....DDR4, SATA Express or better.
Okay, thanks. Will stick with the i5-4670k. Glad to have the latest revisions on board.
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02 Jun 2013   #27
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

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No, the new Haswell chips will run about 5-10% better than Ivy Bridge, clock for clock. That is to say the 3570k and 4670k, running at exactly the same frequency, will have about a 5-10% difference in benchmarks.

Also, I heard they should be easier to OC Paul, but I'd not seen anybody with a retail chip trying yet. I made my mind up when I built this rig that I'm not upgrading until there is new technology out....DDR4, SATA Express or better.
Okay, thanks. Will stick with the i5-4670k. Glad to have the latest revisions on board.
Up to you. I built an Ivy Bridge PC as soon as the parts were released and was lucky to get a good CPU that OC'd like a champ. I have not read anything solid about Haswell OC'ing, but I just learned in this thread they may be limited.
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02 Jun 2013   #28
paulpicks21

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

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02 Jun 2013   #29
CommandoBob

Windows 8 Professional x64
 
 



Anymore improvements you fellas could give or is this build the best of the best for the moment? Note: GTX 660 Ti will be replaced with a GTX 760 Ti as soon as it's out.
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02 Jun 2013   #30
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

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Thanks Paul. I think we should stick with IB for now lol.
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