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Windows 7: How Do I Add Another SATA HDD ? Only got room for 2?

14 Jul 2013   #21
dsperber

Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 (2)
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown View Post
So could I just used the SATA to USB I bought to run the HDD as external? Then buy a cage when I have more money?
This is really not intended for long-term usage.

It is (a) slow-speed running at USB 2.0 speeds, and (b) only provides the interfaces so that you can plug in what would have been an internal drive and use it external to the case. It's really intended for very temporary use.

It is primarily intended to support copying data off of an old drive to a new one, when you upgrade to a new machine or upgrade an internal hard drive, etc. In other words it is a "system installer's trick" to migrate data for a customer, from the "old computer/drive" to the "new computer/drive". It will work fine for that, and supports both IDE and SATA drives making them "readable externally" through a USB 2.0 interface on the new machine. In fact it is the perfect device for that purpose.

But it is not really intended as a long-term solution, especially since the hard drive is generally sitting fully exposed on a carton or something temporarily.

You don't have internal space in your machine for another hard drive. So using any PCIe-to-SATA internal adapter device as was suggested to create additional SATA data connections doesn't help, since you have no place to put another internal drive... even forgetting about power supply requirements and cables to feed another internal drive.

My suggestion still stands, of using an external USB 3.0 drive through either an existing USB 3.0 port if your machine has them, or through an add-on USB 3.0 port through a PCIe-to-USB3.0 adapter card if you have a spare PCIe x1 expansion slot open on your motherboard. Might as well spend $18 for the USB 3.0 adapter card and $115 for a brand new 2TB SATA drive packaged in a USB 3.0 external enclosure with its own power, and get the kind of performance speed and capacity you could really use.


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14 Jul 2013   #22
jacko900000

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

You've all been helpful

I'll be honest, Some of the stuff has gone over my head but people actually took time to write stuff out.

Guess I just better save up for another 1TB HDD

PC runs quick enough, had some trouble over the last couple of months with it now I know its the HDD I'm going to save up for another one and maybe a new PC soon enough.

Thanks everybody.
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14 Jul 2013   #23
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jacko900000 View Post
You've all been helpful

I'll be honest, Some of the stuff has gone over my head but people actually took time to write stuff out.

Guess I just better save up for another 1TB HDD

PC runs quick enough, had some trouble over the last couple of months with it now I know its the HDD I'm going to save up for another one and maybe a new PC soon enough.

Thanks everybody.
Getting a bigger HDD will be your best bet. Avoid the "green" drives and save up for one of the better drives, such as a 1TB SATA III Western Digital Blue or, if you can afford it, Black. You have only two SATA ports; one is used by the HDD and the other by the optical drive. Adding insult to injury, I doubt Acer put in a power supply that could safely handle the extra load of an additional HDD.

When you do get the new HDD, consider putting the OS on a partition separate from your data. When the time comes for that, get back with us for help on how to do that.
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14 Jul 2013   #24
smarteyeball

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jacko900000 View Post

Hmm
Not turning out to be such a good PC as its been running for the last 4 years. Maybe time for an upgrade
You still got four good years out of it

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How much am I looking at for a PCIE-E 16 to SATA .. or something like that?

& yeah, I can't see any extra SATA or power wires/plugs
It can vary but factor in a $20-40.


This is an example of what you could fit into your PCIE-E x1 slot

Masscool XWT PCIE10 PCI Express 4 Port SATA2 Card | eBay


However having no power to run the drives might be your biggest hurdle. The card draws power from the slot, the drives cannot. Theoretically if you had one spare molex plug, you could use a splitter/adapter to power two drives.

But if you have NO spare power plugs - upgrade limit on internal reached mate.

As mentioned, you could run a drive externally.

I'd personally prefer to use an add on USB 3.0 card + a USB 3.0 enclosure. You wouldn't get "Full speed" but it'd still be quicker transferring data on a regular basis.
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14 Jul 2013   #25
DocBrown

Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz)
 
 

I think the best you could do would be to get a 2tb internal Sata HD (to replace your old internal HD). Format it first into several partitions. Then do a clean win7 install without OEM bloatware as gregrockers tutorial here on SF. Then the best alternative for a second Sata HD would be an external USB case or DOCK unit like I showed earlier.
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14 Jul 2013   #26
jacko900000

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jacko900000 View Post
You've all been helpful

I'll be honest, Some of the stuff has gone over my head but people actually took time to write stuff out.

Guess I just better save up for another 1TB HDD

PC runs quick enough, had some trouble over the last couple of months with it now I know its the HDD I'm going to save up for another one and maybe a new PC soon enough.

Thanks everybody.
Getting a bigger HDD will be your best bet. Avoid the "green" drives and save up for one of the better drives, such as a 1TB SATA III Western Digital Blue or, if you can afford it, Black. You have only two SATA ports; one is used by the HDD and the other by the optical drive. Adding insult to injury, I doubt Acer put in a power supply that could safely handle the extra load of an additional HDD.

When you do get the new HDD, consider putting the OS on a partition separate from your data. When the time comes for that, get back with us for help on how to do that.
I did have a partition on my 1TB, I don't know whats happened with that.. All of a sudden it just stopped loading windows and constantly gave my errors (see my older posts) So Im guessing thats what the error was.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jacko900000 View Post

Hmm
Not turning out to be such a good PC as its been running for the last 4 years. Maybe time for an upgrade
You still got four good years out of it

Quote:
How much am I looking at for a PCIE-E 16 to SATA .. or something like that?

& yeah, I can't see any extra SATA or power wires/plugs
It can vary but factor in a $20-40.


This is an example of what you could fit into your PCIE-E x1 slot

Masscool XWT PCIE10 PCI Express 4 Port SATA2 Card | eBay


However having no power to run the drives might be your biggest hurdle. The card draws power from the slot, the drives cannot. Theoretically if you had one spare molex plug, you could use a splitter/adapter to power two drives.

But if you have NO spare power plugs - upgrade limit on internal reached mate.

As mentioned, you could run a drive externally.

I'd personally prefer to use an add on USB 3.0 card + a USB 3.0 enclosure. You wouldn't get "Full speed" but it'd still be quicker transferring data on a regular basis.
Yeah 4 good years, Never let me down until recently everything has been going wrong. Flawless running aswell always booted in less than 30seconds.

Think I'm just going to save up and buy another (i think this is correct) a 3.5 SATA 1 TB HDD.

Then I'll look into buying better graphics and filling them slots.. If they're there, might as well use them right?

What would you recommend to fill rest of those slots?
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14 Jul 2013   #27
jacko900000

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown View Post
I think the best you could do would be to get a 2tb internal Sata HD (to replace your old internal HD). Format it first into several partitions. Then do a clean win7 install without OEM bloatware as gregrockers tutorial here on SF. Then the best alternative for a second Sata HD would be an external USB case or DOCK unit like I showed earlier.
The only reason I was wanting to external HDD is because the 1TB I have was originally in my PC.. That broke, Does work but really not sure whats up with it.. Recently got error on PC when installing windows 7 "can't find drivers" .. Found out that was a HDD error.

So the main reason to putting that 1TB external is so its not sat in a box doing nothing until I have enough money to buy another 1/2TB HDD.
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14 Jul 2013   #28
DocBrown

Win7 Enterprise, Win7 x86 (Ult 7600), Win7 x64 Ult 7600, TechNet RTM on AMD x64 (2.8Ghz)
 
 

So which HD is win7 running from right now ? Laptop HD ?
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14 Jul 2013   #29
jacko900000

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DocBrown View Post
So which HD is win7 running from right now ? Laptop HD ?
Yeah a 120GB HDD from a laptop its the only thing I had to get my PC up and running.
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14 Jul 2013   #30
DavidE

Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64
 
 

If you do get a new HD look at 2-3 TB drives.
They are more cost effective than 1 TB drives now (USA).
Newegg often has 2 TB 7200 rpm HD's on sale for ~$80 USD.
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