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16 Jul 2013   #11
TwoCables

 

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*My whole life was a lie*

Anyway, my GPU will be one of those (650, 650 ti, 660 etc)
I'll decide when the other parts a chosen.

EDIT: but then why does it say that I have 4 cores?

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Because your CPU has Hyper Threading. Two threads per core. So Core 0 is split into two threads instead of 1, and Core 1 is split into 2 instead of 1, resulting in 4 total threads. Windows sees them as actual cores, but the physical CPU in your socket on your motherboard has just 2 cores.

oh, so they are kind off like virtual cores, but 4 actual physical cores are better?
Yep, because you don't have 2 cores doing the work of 4. You have 4 doing the work of 4.


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Ok, next topic:

RAM

is 8gb ok? (4gb + 4gb)
Yep, that's what I was trying to tell you before. However, I don't know yet if Haswell (4th Generation) is better with 4 sticks or 2. I know that Sandy and Ivy Bridge (2nd and 3rd Gen) are good with 2 sticks...


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And I almost forgot,

OS
Should Windows 7 ultimate be good? (i have both windows 7 and 8 on different laptops) and I dont like the look and feel of 8, it seems like its new and unsupported. its unknown territory. Im asking that, 7 is still supported and will continue to be supported, right? By developers and Microsoft?
Home Premium should be more than enough:

Windows 7, what's the difference between the editions? - Neowin

Windows 7, what's the difference between the editions? - Neowin

Windows 7 editions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Go with 64-bit, though. I recommend the Retail version (not OEM, or "System Builder") because then you'll be able to upgrade to a new motherboard or even a new system without having to buy a new copy.


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Oh, and I've seen many game requirements saying that:

RAM:
XP: 1gb min
Vista/7 : 2gb min

so, is 8 also with vista and 7? or is it even more heavier?
I don't know, but I would assume it's either the same or perhaps even less because the last I remember, I thought Windows 8's requirements were lower than Windows 7's.


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16 Jul 2013   #12
nabeelfarooqui9

Windows 7 Home Basic x64
 
 

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I don't know, but I would assume it's either the same or perhaps even less because the last I remember, I thought Windows 8's requirements were lower than Windows 7's.
I think its low too, because visually 8 is very 'light' its just plain colours and tiles.

And dont bother about Haswell because most likely i will go for 3rd gen.

so a 3rd gen core i5 3.0 ghz is good enough? its costs?
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16 Jul 2013   #13
TwoCables

 

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I don't know, but I would assume it's either the same or perhaps even less because the last I remember, I thought Windows 8's requirements were lower than Windows 7's.
I think its low too, because visually 8 is very 'light' its just plain colours and tiles.

And dont bother about Haswell because most likely i will go for 3rd gen.

so a 3rd gen core i5 3.0 ghz is good enough? its costs?
Yeah, but the i5-4430 is Haswell. It's the 4th generation.
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16 Jul 2013   #14
nabeelfarooqui9

Windows 7 Home Basic x64
 
 

whats the difference between generations?
like a 3rd gen i5 3ghz vs 4th gen i5 3ghz?

so the one you mentioned is around $190.

So i did a search on nvidia 660 gtx.
whats the difference between gigabye and inno3d?

are they the same thing? the gigabyte is of $260 - $320 while the inno3d is of $230?
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16 Jul 2013   #15
TwoCables

 

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whats the difference between generations?
like a 3rd gen i5 3ghz vs 4th gen i5 3ghz?
Well first, try to stop thinking in terms of 3.0 GHz. There's the clock speed, and then there's the turbo frequency. Check into it, you might like what you find out!

I don't know all the differences, but the differences result in better performance due to better processing efficiency. Of course, there are other differences, but these can all be explained by lots of articles that I think can be found on the internet.


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so the one you mentioned is around $190.
That's actually the one you mentioned. It's Haswell, 4th generation.


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So i did a search on nvidia 660 gtx.
whats the difference between gigabye and inno3d?

are they the same thing? the gigabyte is of $260 - $320 while the inno3d is of $230?
These are aftermarket brands, which is a good thing. They do things to improve upon the original design (the "reference" design). Compare them. You might find that there are differences in clock speeds, number of CUDA Cores, or the quality of the components used to build the card, the cooling, etc.
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16 Jul 2013   #16
nabeelfarooqui9

Windows 7 Home Basic x64
 
 

Hm...

They are very similar, but I have decided for the Gigabyte version if my budget allows it.
Inno3d Inno3D
Gigabyte GIGABYTE - Graphics Card - NVIDIA - PCI Express Solution - GeForce 600 Series - GV-N660OC-2GD
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16 Jul 2013   #17
TwoCables

 

Oh, yeah the Inno3D appears to be true to the reference design for people who can't afford the improvements that they could make to it.
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16 Jul 2013   #18
nabeelfarooqui9

Windows 7 Home Basic x64
 
 

ok, so now we have

Intel Core i3 processor 4th gen $200

Gigabyte Nvidia Geforce gtx 660 $200

8gb RAM DDR3 $50-$60



Thats around $450-$460

Whats left?

I need a case, how much do they cost btw?
I need a PSU, cost?
A CD/DVD Burner, or just a CD/DVD Reader, cost?
And a motherboard, cost?

Can all these things be bought under $150?



I found this: http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index...yte-oc-edition


Um.... it says that i should get 1920x1080 resolution. What would happen i fI use my current 1366x786 monitor? at least until i upgrade
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16 Jul 2013   #19
TwoCables

 

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ok, so now we have

Intel Core i3 processor 4th gen $200

Gigabyte Nvidia Geforce gtx 660 $200

8gb RAM DDR3 $50-$60



Thats around $450-$460

Whats left?
Wait, I thought that you didn't want 4th gen. I mean, there's nothing wrong with it that I know of, but still.

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I need a case, how much do they cost btw?
Anywhere from about $20 to $300.

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I need a PSU, cost?
For what you need, easily under $100. Very easily.


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A CD/DVD Burner, or just a CD/DVD Reader, cost?
I guess anywhere from about $17 to about $40.


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And a motherboard, cost?
Anywhere from about $80 to maybe $130, approximately.


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Can all these things be bought under $150?
Everything but the case because there are cases you can get that can cost up to about $300.


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I found this: Nvidia GeForce GTX 660 Inno3D Edition compare Nvidia GeForce GTX 660 Gigabyte OC Edition GPU


Um.... it says that i should get 1920x1080 resolution. What would happen i fI use my current 1366x786 monitor? at least until i upgrade
I think that's so you get to enjoy 1080p. Using a lower resolution will result in a little better 3D performance because it won't have to work as hard.
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16 Jul 2013   #20
nabeelfarooqui9

Windows 7 Home Basic x64
 
 

ok, im going to bed now, i'll post when i wake up. And thanks for all your help. It has greatly helped me in choosing
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