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Windows 7: hard drives 3 and 4tb

01 Aug 2013   #1
muffin1962

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hard drives 3 and 4tb

hi i bought 2 wd drives 1 at 3tb and 1 at 4tb to put some movies on they have both been formatted to fat32 useing this program
Code:
http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?fat32format.htm
the movies have been encoded to mp4 useing ImTOO DVD Ripper Ultimate and wondershare Video Converter Ultimate when it worked , when i play the movies on the tv from 4tb drive some will work and other will say file not supported , but if i play the same movies from the 3tb drive the ones that did not work on the 4tb drive would work but other ones on the 3tb drive would not in which i dont understand why ? i am so confused , if i put movies on the 3tb drive they dont show up through the tv media player allthough ll movies have been done the same way , our the hard drives to big? or am i doing some thing wrong ? which is the best way to format these size of hard drive to fat32 into 1 partition thanks for your advice


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01 Aug 2013   #2
TVeblen

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Fat32??? No - no - no. That is an ancient file system. Horrible for video.

Use Windows 7 to format the drives NTFS. (Backup your data first)
Or you could try a conversion:
Convert FAT or FAT32 Volume to NTFS

For video, particularly using the newer larger hard drives I would also use the Advanced Format (4k sectors). Much better for large video files.
Advanced Format - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://www.seagate.com/tech-insights...ves-master-ti/

Hope that helps.
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01 Aug 2013   #3
muffin1962

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many thanks for your reply this is the tv we have got
Code:
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/panasonic-viera-tx-l37e5b-full-hd-37-led-tv-12311762-pdt.html
we did try and format the drives to ntfs and when we attached the drive to the tv it came up with no device found
this is why we formatted the drive to fat32
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01 Aug 2013   #4
TVeblen

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Ah - missing information.

You are connecting external hard drives directly to the TV. Correct?

Yes, the TV may only be able to recognize Fat32 devices, like USB thumb drives. It is unusual to be connecting external hard drives directly to the TV. And with very large drives, over 2.2TB, you will have problems with Fat32.

Most people connect the TV to the LAN (Home network) and then either use a Network storage device (this could be the external hard drive if it has network connections - or a network enclosure - NAS), or HDDs that are installed in a network connected PC(s), or a networked Media Player.

You should describe your setup (all equipment) and what you are trying to do.
It might also be a good idea to ask a question in the Media Center forum here. "What is the best way to use new external 4TB hard drive with DLNA TV?"
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01 Aug 2013   #5
muffin1962

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thank you for your reply with the 3tb drive the movies are categorised eg: action , horror etc and yet some work and some dont , when i try and do the same with the 4tb drive it says no valid media is found but if i dont put the movies into categorised sections they work fine which is weird would this issue be down to the size of drive as well if it is i will need alot of drives as we have around 4.000 movies
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01 Aug 2013   #6
TVeblen

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You might have some success by creating partitions on the hard disks, with partition sizes no larger than 2TB. You could format each partition Fat32.

But as I said earlier - FAT32 is not a good file system to use for such large files, and particularly for movies. That could be the reason they don't play.
You really should look into a better way to do this job than connecting direct to the TV.
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01 Aug 2013   #7
muffin1962

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thank you for your reply the file size of each movie is between 500 mb and 1.6 gb 95% of the movies do work 100% but not all movies shown up on the hard drive allthough they are there in windows explorer
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01 Aug 2013   #8
TVeblen

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Is there a question in there muffin1962?

Plus, I can't really comment any further until you answer some of my questions.
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02 Aug 2013   #9
muffin1962

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thank you for your reply would this help my problem
Code:
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=330
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02 Aug 2013   #10
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi there
For 3 and 4TB drives you need to CONVERT them to GPT (not MBR) drives if you want to use the full size partitions. (You could SPLIT the drives into smaller partitions but that IMO goes against the whole purpose of larger drives for multi media folders etc).

Max size of an MBR partition is around 2 - 2.2 TB. If you format them as old MBR drives (classical method) you won't be able to use the whole drives.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/4127-73-convert

(Method shown is for W8 but is the same for W7).

BTW you can create very large partitions by SPANNING disks -- create DYNAMIC volume from Disk management and then click against the disks you want to be "Spanned".

Windows will then treat those multiple volumes as "SINGLE disks" -- useful if you have several small drives but want to create say a 6TB multi media folder -- a lot of the music / video cataloguing type stuff only works normally with a folder up to the available space on the disk -- using spanning gets round this restriction -- but if you DO use spanning adjust you backup strategy to backup by FOLDERS as windows controls where the data is physically located on the spanned volume set.

Cheers
jimbo
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