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Windows 7: Haswell RAM issue

10 Aug 2013   #71
Solarstarshines

Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kbrady1979 View Post
I know every platform has it's little quirks with benchmarking programs here and there, but almost every common benchmark has problems with Haswell. Looks like it's time for vendors to update their software.
You might be on to something
This would make them rewrite and code it to all the new architecture thus would probably improve numbers on both platforms

Honestly AMD gets the shaft when it comes to coded programs probably wouldn't be much different


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10 Aug 2013   #72
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

Usually they push out a version update that accounts for CPU/Platform identification and the really good programs will have any physical changes incorporated in as well. AIDA64 is one of the few stress testing programs that understands how Ivy Bridge works and can stress it without risk of bricking everything.....JJ from Asus calls it "validated". I'm guessing for Haswell, besides the CPU/Platform identification, they would have to factor in the extra C States and anything new that IB doesn't have.
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10 Aug 2013   #73
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Further on this, the new memtest 5.0 I don't think is doing a proper RAM test even though it got most of the readings right. I ran memtest86+ 5.0 od Haswell and it took all of 47 seconds to complete 5 tests! Sound a little suspicious. Haswell did 9 passes in nearly the same time Sandy did 3 passes. Note that the memtest 5.0 has some quirks even with Sandy.

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10 Aug 2013   #74
Faladu

Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Box (64-bit installed) + Service Pack 1
 
 

Didn't read whole thread.

I surmise that a Haswell is not speedier because they did a lesser quality Northbridge on die for whatever reason then the previous generation.
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10 Aug 2013   #75
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Faladu View Post
Didn't read whole thread.

I surmise that a Haswell is not speedier because they did a lesser quality Northbridge on die for whatever reason then the previous generation.
I think it is just not showing up in the benchmarks we have access to. I doubt it is any slower.
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10 Aug 2013   #76
Faladu

Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Box (64-bit installed) + Service Pack 1
 
 

Hey k, I am just responding to fact Haswell came out and didn't have the seemingly customary jacking of the price pattern, I figured there was a reason.

I'm unsure which Intel to recommend right now if someone asked me, I'd have a ton of questions and data to absorb/filter before answering.
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10 Aug 2013   #77
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

I'm still recommending Ivy Bridge for most builds. It's still a hell of a platform to build off of. If they get Haswell straightened out later on in the manufacturing process, it might be a different ballgame.
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11 Aug 2013   #78
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Faladu View Post
Didn't read whole thread.

I surmise that a Haswell is not speedier because they did a lesser quality Northbridge on die for whatever reason then the previous generation.
A lesser who, where? Intel has no north and south bridge, just one chip.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kbrady1979 View Post
I'm still recommending Ivy Bridge for most builds. It's still a hell of a platform to build off of. If they get Haswell straightened out later on in the manufacturing process, it might be a different ballgame.
Not a bad idea Kelly, some Ivy CPUs are getting cheaper but a lot of good higher end boards are getting harder to find.

I think the biggest whammy Haswell has is the on chip voltage regulator, may be why all out normal tools are giving silly readings.
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