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Windows 7: Paragon Migrate OS to SSD

29 Sep 2013   #11
truckinguy

Win7 64 Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
Paragon Migrate OS to SSD, can you connect it with a USB cable?
Yes I have both a esata port and external encloser and a 2nd hdd bay to use. I clone now to my 2 hdd for backup use.


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29 Sep 2013   #12
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Looks like you are in business. Use the link that Steve posted above.
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02 Oct 2013   #13
truckinguy

Win7 64 Bit
 
 

One more question before I take the leap. I have a second HDD bay and use it for my storage but I also use it to clone my primary drive in case It fails I can remove my clone and install it for a primary. I know most of you use a backup program and don't clone but it's easiest for me and has worked well for me for over 10 years now.
Question is "would the clone from SSD to HDD be o.k. or will there be issues? Or should I have to figure out a system for backing up with images.
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02 Oct 2013   #14
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

The Paragon Migrate will work cloning to an SSD or a hard drive. It won't make ny difference to it. It will work well for what you want to do.
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02 Oct 2013   #15
truckinguy

Win7 64 Bit
 
 

Thanks for the reply. To clarify this you think that once I get my SDD up and running I can clone it to a HDD and it be bootable and usable. What confuses me is there are changes made to migrate from HDD to SSD but wouldn't there be changes back to HDD as well?
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02 Oct 2013   #16
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

It will do it with no problem. From the Paragon Migrate description.

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Paragon Migrate OS to SSD 3.0

The easiest OS migration to new Solid State Drives!

Ready to upgrade to a new Solid State Drive (SSD)? Paragonís Migrate OS to SSD is just what you need. Our handy intuitive wizard performs fast and safe Windows migrations to new storage devices (HDD or SSD) and even downsizes to smaller capacity drives, thanks to advanced new data exclusion capabilities. You can transfer a live system with no impact to your work, and have your partitions automatically aligned in the process if needed.
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02 Oct 2013   #17
Kaktussoft

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by truckinguy View Post
Thanks for the reply. To clarify this you think that once I get my SDD up and running I can clone it to a HDD and it be bootable and usable. What confuses me is there are changes made to migrate from HDD to SSD but wouldn't there be changes back to HDD as well?
Exactly what changes are you refering to?

Automatic defragging is OFF on SSD and ON on HDD by default (win7 does that). And SSD should be aligned properly to NTFS cluster boundaries. How a HDD is aligned is irrelevant, but a clean win7 install will align it to 1MB boundary which is fine for SSD as well.

A migration from SSD to HDD or vice versa is just to same as from HDD to other HDD. It can be done by backup/restore or by cloning. Be sure the backup/restore software or cloning software can shrink/relocate partitions partition... otherwise it won't fit on a smaller disk of course.
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02 Oct 2013   #18
Kaktussoft

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From: SSD - Install and Transfer the Operating System

Settings after the OS transfer

Disk Defragmentation makes no sense on an SSD. For a laptop, go into Services, navigate to Disk Defragmenter, right click on it and go to Properties. Here you set the service to Disabled.

For a desktop, you may want to disable defrag in the Disk Defragmenter and only for the SSD so that the remaining HDDs can still be defragmented.=> automatic defragging SSD is disabled by default. No extra actions needed

Note: As long as Defrag Service is turned off, you cannot shrink any partition. The partition shrink process requires the Defrag service. If you need to shrink a partition later, turn the Defragmentation Service temporarily on.

Hibernation File – most of us do not use Hibernation, but Sleep instead. But, the hiberfile takes precious space on your SSD – to the same tune as the size as your RAM. To get rid of it, run the following command in elevated Command Prompt: powercfg –h off. If you ever want it back, it is powercfg – h on.=>you decide yourself if you want the hibernation option. Totally unrelated to SDD (unless you need extra space on SSD)

Superfetch – many “experts” suggest to turn Superfetch off. I think that is not appropriate. Fetching a program or data from RAM is still a lot faster than fetching it from a disk – even from an SSD.=>use superfetch!

There are no other settings that are necessary. On the SSD forums you will find a lot of tweaks. I recommend you stay away from them.=>good advice
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All those settings are saved in backup/clone.
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02 Oct 2013   #19
truckinguy

Win7 64 Bit
 
 

You spelled out some or all of the changes I've read about. I don't know what they are or how they affect what I want to do. It's above my pay grade so to speak. I know things have to be set up different for SSD then HDD so my concern was once I get a SSD in and established I'd like to keep cloning to a HDD I have. I may buy the Paragon program that does both Migrate and back up so I'm covered totally and in the end make it easier to do what I want.
I appreciate the replies and help.


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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by truckinguy View Post
Thanks for the reply. To clarify this you think that once I get my SDD up and running I can clone it to a HDD and it be bootable and usable. What confuses me is there are changes made to migrate from HDD to SSD but wouldn't there be changes back to HDD as well?
Exactly what changes are you refering to?

Automatic defragging is OFF on SSD and ON on HDD by default (win7 does that). And SSD should be aligned properly to NTFS cluster boundaries. How a HDD is aligned is irrelevant, but a clean win7 install will align it to 1MB boundary which is fine for SSD as well.

A migration from SSD to HDD or vice versa is just to same as from HDD to other HDD. It can be done by backup/restore or by cloning. Be sure the backup/restore software or cloning software can shrink/relocate partitions partition... otherwise it won't fit on a smaller disk of course.
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02 Oct 2013   #20
Kaktussoft

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

As I wrote in previous post... there are no really neccesary changes to do.... except the alignment (is for speed).
With what software do you clone? And do you clone the whole disk, or just partition clones?
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