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Windows 7: SSD/HD vs SSD/SSHD vs SSHD combinations

02 Dec 2013   #1
camner

Windows 7 Pro (64 bit)
 
 
SSD/HD vs SSD/SSHD vs SSHD combinations

I just purchased a 128GB SSD to install in my PC and then someone gave me for my birthday a 1TB SSHD. I was originally planning to pair the SSD with a 1TB data drive.

I now have several possibilities:

1. Use the SSHD only
2. Use the SSD as the boot drive with a HD data drive (original plan)
3. Use the SSD as the boot drive with the SSHD as a data drive.

So, a few questions…

1. For "normal use" (that is, not gaming, not data intensive uses such as video etc.), does the SSD as the boot drive offer significant performance differences over and SSHD?
2. If I use the SSD as the boot drive, is there much benefit in using the SSHD as a data drive vs. a "normal" HD as the data drive?


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02 Dec 2013   #2
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

SSD's are exponentially faster than HDD's and SSHD's as far as the operating system and programs are concerned. Normal data such as videos, music, pictures, etc will not benefit from SSD's because of how much slower the HDD is in sequential read/write speeds, but the SSHD may be faster. If you want, you can use the SSHD for storage until you find another use for it.
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02 Dec 2013   #3
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

I would pick solution #3. And as Kelly says, the SSHD is a bit faster than a HDD but in no way even close to a SSD. The SSD part on the SSHD is essentially a buffer and you still have the HDD seek times - which are appr. 150 times slower than on the SSD.
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12 Feb 2014   #4
RickV

Win7 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

So I made a mistake in purchasing the Seagate 1 TB SSHD to upgrade my nestbook w/Win7 to obtain a supported OS? Rats, I dislike it when I make mistakes!

What can you suggest? A small SSD to obtain some of the benefit of the SATA III speed? Note my netbook is an ASUS 1000H so it is SATA vintage. As a result, it will limit data transfer speeds rather than the new drive specifications. I hope I can still return the SSHD (ST1000LM014)...

I'm uncertain what happened to my OE Momentus 5400.4 160 GB HDD. All I know is that a couple of weeks ago I cannot boot the 1000H. It presently exhibits a 'boot loop' in that I observe an abrupt flash of a BSOD then it reboots instantly and repeats until I shut it off. I think my BIOS permits me to disable the re-boot feature if this has value to me.

I thought the NAND on the SSHD would have a speed benefit similar to the SSD. Is a better solution rerplace the OE 160 GB Momentus 5400.4 w/an affordable SSD and use the Momentus as an external drive after I analyze/repair it?

Please advise.
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12 Feb 2014   #5
Kaktussoft

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RickV View Post
So I made a mistake in purchasing the Seagate 1 TB SSHD to upgrade my nestbook w/Win7 to obtain a supported OS? Rats, I dislike it when I make mistakes!

What can you suggest? A small SSD to obtain some of the benefit of the SATA III speed? Note my netbook is an ASUS 1000H so it is SATA vintage. As a result, it will limit data transfer speeds rather than the new drive specifications. I hope I can still return the SSHD (ST1000LM014)...

I'm uncertain what happened to my OE Momentus 5400.4 160 GB HDD. All I know is that a couple of weeks ago I cannot boot the 1000H. It presently exhibits a 'boot loop' in that I observe an abrupt flash of a BSOD then it reboots instantly and repeats until I shut it off. I think my BIOS permits me to disable the re-boot feature if this has value to me.

I thought the NAND on the SSHD would have a speed benefit similar to the SSD. Is a better solution rerplace the OE 160 GB Momentus 5400.4 w/an affordable SSD and use the Momentus as an external drive after I analyze/repair it?

Please advise.
Show us the BSOD first. Boot to Advanced Boot Options and select "Disable Automatic Restart on System Failure". This prevents Windows 7 from automatically restarting if an error causes Windows 7 to fail. Choose this option only if Windows 7 is stuck in a loop where Windows 7 fails, attempts to restart, and fails again repeatedly.
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12 Feb 2014   #6
madcratebuilder

Win8/8.1,Win7-U64, Vista U64, uncounted Linux distor's
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by camner View Post
I just purchased a 128GB SSD to install in my PC and then someone gave me for my birthday a 1TB SSHD. I was originally planning to pair the SSD with a 1TB data drive.

I now have several possibilities:

1. Use the SSHD only
2. Use the SSD as the boot drive with a HD data drive (original plan)
3. Use the SSD as the boot drive with the SSHD as a data drive.

So, a few questions…

1. For "normal use" (that is, not gaming, not data intensive uses such as video etc.), does the SSD as the boot drive offer significant performance differences over and SSHD?
2. If I use the SSD as the boot drive, is there much benefit in using the SSHD as a data drive vs. a "normal" HD as the data drive?

Option 2 or 3 IMHO. The Hybrid drive "learns" what programs or data you use most often and then stores that in NAND for faster retrieval. Using the SSHD as the OS drive would be faster then a HHD and a bit slower than the SSD. It takes time for the SSHD to learn your system and is initially no faster then a HDD, after a dozen or so restarts it loads the OS almost as fast as a SSD.



Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RickV
So I made a mistake in purchasing the Seagate 1 TB SSHD to upgrade my nestbook w/Win7 to obtain a supported OS? Rats, I dislike it when I make mistakes!
Not a mistake, in time your system learns what programs you use and loads those to NAND. I have a SSHD in one of my LT's and after a dozen or more restarts it loads as fast (within a few seconds) as a full SSD. I only had room for a single drive and felt the Hybrid was the best option.
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12 Feb 2014   #7
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RickV View Post
So I made a mistake in purchasing the Seagate 1 TB SSHD to upgrade my nestbook w/Win7 to obtain a supported OS? Rats, I dislike it when I make mistakes!

What can you suggest? A small SSD to obtain some of the benefit of the SATA III speed? Note my netbook is an ASUS 1000H so it is SATA vintage. As a result, it will limit data transfer speeds rather than the new drive specifications. I hope I can still return the SSHD (ST1000LM014)...

I'm uncertain what happened to my OE Momentus 5400.4 160 GB HDD. All I know is that a couple of weeks ago I cannot boot the 1000H. It presently exhibits a 'boot loop' in that I observe an abrupt flash of a BSOD then it reboots instantly and repeats until I shut it off. I think my BIOS permits me to disable the re-boot feature if this has value to me.

I thought the NAND on the SSHD would have a speed benefit similar to the SSD. Is a better solution rerplace the OE 160 GB Momentus 5400.4 w/an affordable SSD and use the Momentus as an external drive after I analyze/repair it?

Please advise.
The simple answer to if the SSHD was a mistake would be: it depends. For most people who mostly web surf and frequently boot and shut down their computers, an SSHD is a comparatively inexpensive compromise to have a large storage volume with an increase in boot and program loading speed. However, the amount of benefit will vary from user to user. In my case, because of my usage patterns on my notebook, I didn't gain anything. Others have reported much better results. I bit the bullet and replaced the SSHD with a 500GB SSD and have been very happy with the results.

An SSD, of course, will be much better at all times but one large enough to meet your storage needs would be far more expensive than an SSHD. Also, since you are using a netbook, the speed gains may not be as great as others have experienced. If you don't mind the inconvenience, a smaller SSD, such as 120-128GB, paired up with a larger external HDD will be a less expensive alternative to a large SSD.
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12 Feb 2014   #8
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

How many machines are you working with? You said your were given a 1TB SSHD for your birthday, later you said you made a mistake buying one.
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12 Feb 2014   #9
carwiz

Windows 7 Pro-x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 View Post
How many machines are you working with? You said your were given a 1TB SSHD for your birthday, later you said you made a mistake buying one.
New OP on an old post.
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12 Feb 2014   #10
RickV

Win7 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

Yes, I am a new participant to an old post that is the same issue I am currently working with.

Well, I would state I had not learned enough prior to purchasing the SSHD.

Everyone please note my netbook is an ASUS 1000H that came equipped with XP Home. My need for the new drive is so that Win7 upgrade will perform better as an Intel Atom N-270 w/2GB RAM is likely to be anemic.

Kaktussoft - I know of this option and will disable it and post the results of the BSOD in the next day or two.

Thanks!
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