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Windows 7: hard drive space has gone missing, have tried all solutions

27 Dec 2013   #11
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

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Do you think that if I back up only the most important files onto an external drive, completely wipe the original hard drive, then put it all back onto the freshly formatted hard drive, will it alleviate this deterioration problem?

Whichever files you have to save only you can judge. But a reinstall will not fix an apparent hardware problem.

What I would do is buy a new drive at BestBuy (you'll need a new drive anyhow and they are cheaper in the US) and have the Geek Squad transfer all your system and files. They have external enclosures and can easily do that. Maybe you want to consider even a SSHD. A bit more expensive but also faster.

This is the one I use and have made performance comparisons: Newegg.com - Seagate Hybrid Drive ST1000DX001 1TB MLC/8GB 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s NCQ 3.5" Desktop SSHD

SSHD - Performance comparison with HDD and SSD


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27 Dec 2013   #12
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by alan10 View Post
A screenshot from TreeSize would be VERY USEFUL to compare with WizTree.

Wiztree is very quick because it gets all its data from the MFT,
but is therefore not suitable for FAT32 format.
TreeSize is slower - I guess because it trawls through directory structures.

When I scan Partition R:\
Wiztree IMMEDIATELY shows
Total Space 742.2 GB
Space Used 736.4 GB
Space Free 5.8 GB
Then it spends less than 4 seconds scanning the MFT,
and a further 3 seconds preparing the "Tree View" which lists the folders, sizes, and numbers of files.
This is when I see a maximum total of 316,004 files in R:\

TreeSize Free takes 10 seconds building up totals,
During that time its total size for R:\ gradually creeps up to 735.9 GB.
It only sees 315,986 files

TreeSize is unable to see the folder R:\$Extend\ or the 8 files which WizTree reports
WizTree also sees and reports these 9 files, which TreeSize also ignores
the 436.8 MB file R:\$MFT
and 8 more R:\$etc files that total 100 MB

My guess is that WizTRee and WinDirStat are telling you the same thing because they both use the MFT.

If Windows Explorer properties and TreeSize agree that C:\ has about 576,000 files your problem might just be an error in the MFT entry that states the Free Space.
If Windows Explorer properties and TreeSize indicate a vastly different quantity of files then the MFT could be horribly corrupt.

IT IS POSSIBLE THE MFT IS CORRUPT,
Otherwise there would not be a backup/repair mechanism which I believe involves $MFT and MFTMirr,
and hopefully there are experts here who know the relevant procedures and magic spells.

I am not sure of the prudence of :-
attempting to detect and remove malware files if you are accessing it via a corrupt MFT;
or of attempting to investigate and maybe repair the MFT in the presence of a RootKit
That is a question to ask at any malware fighting forum.

@ICit2lol
Sorry, I do not see any reason to suspect malware, but perhaps you have seen this sort of problem before.

I would have thought the "Healthy OEM" partition to be common when a P.C. is supplied with Windows pre-installed,
and having a separate partition for a Pagefile is fairly common
(though it is a beginner's mistake to have it on the same Drive as C:\)
I am surprised that C:\ is marked as Active instead of the 200 MB partition at the start of the Disk.

Regards
Alan
No probs Alan I do them as a routine as they don't take long and eliminate stuff like that. So basically I ma juts shortening the list of possible problems
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28 Dec 2013   #13
matts6887

Windows 7 ultimate 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by wammeze View Post
Hey whs

I am based out of Canada and am currently visiting relatives in Texas. They do sell hard drives here, and I do have a one year subscription with the best buy geek squad, it's just I want to try as many things as possible on my end before I have to spend some money.

This is not the first time something has happened to this brand of hard drive that has given me issues, so i'm understandably starting to lose faith in WD.

Do you think that if I back up only the most important files onto an external drive, completely wipe the original hard drive, then put it all back onto the freshly formatted hard drive, will it alleviate this deterioration problem?

Thanks for the help, I really appreciate it!

-wammeze

PS-Attached is the tree size image you requested.
Well; just because it isnt the first time something has happened with a western digital hd goes on yer end; does not mean its a horrible brand. In fact it happens to be one of the better brands out there for hard drives. Heck; I have a wd drive in my system right now. Just realize that at anytime; a hd can start to die no matter what the brand is. And it is quite possible that doing a fresh install may alleviate the situation. But you wont know for sure unless you try.
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05 Jan 2014   #14
wammeze

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
 
 
Sorry for the late reply

Hey guys, after a really long period of trying to save everything, it was all to no avail, as my hard drive completely crashed. I formatted the hard drive, and re-installed windows 7 onto my computers internal 32 GB SSD, so everything actually turned out better than before! Thanks everyone for the help!!

-wammeze
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05 Jan 2014   #15
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by wammeze View Post
Hey guys, after a really long period of trying to save everything, it was all to no avail, as my hard drive completely crashed. I formatted the hard drive, and re-installed windows 7 onto my computers internal 32 GB SSD, so everything actually turned out better than before! Thanks everyone for the help!!

-wammeze
Well to make it even better Wammeze try this Optimize Windows 7
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