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Windows 7: HDD was seen by my PC, but after 3rd party format it is not visible

18 Mar 2014   #21
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

My suggestion has not been answered, unsubscribed. What is "lupo" I never saw a mention of that?


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18 Mar 2014   #22
jumanji

Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit
 
 

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....... What is "lupo" I never saw a mention of that?
Lupu = Lucid Puppy. Mentioned in Post #17. This.
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18 Mar 2014   #23
Torah Lishmah

Windows 7 Enterprise SP1 x64
 
 

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So the question is does Gparted always initialise the disk as a GPT disk?
Yes, if the drive is 1TB or larger, then the default setting is GPT. However, you can choose others. [see below]

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Is it not possible to initialize the disk as an MBR disk?
Yes, you can choose to initialize the disk any way you like. [see below]

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Also in my limited exploration, I could not find anyway to convert a GPT to MBR or vice versa as I could do in Windows Disk Management or most other partitioning/formatting software. Or am I missing something?
Go to the main menu, and select "Partition" > then hover over "Format to" > select which file system you want to format to in the provided list. There should be around twenty different options, which is only one of the things that makes GParted such an awesome piece of software.
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19 Mar 2014   #24
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 View Post
....... What is "lupo" I never saw a mention of that?
Lupu = Lucid Puppy. Mentioned in Post #17. This.
Ahh, Lucid Puppy was, not lupu. Never mind, I see it as part of the name of the iso.
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19 Mar 2014   #25
jumanji

Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Torah Lishmah View Post
Yes, if the drive is 1TB or larger, then the default setting is GPT. However, you can choose others. [see below]

Yes, you can choose to initialize the disk any way you like. [see below]

Go to the main menu, and select "Partition" > then hover over "Format to" > select which file system you want to format to in the provided list. There should be around twenty different options, which is only one of the things that makes GParted such an awesome piece of software.
With all that you never said how to initialise the disk in GParted.

Never mind. On further exploration, I found out Device > Create Partition Table > Advanced gives one the option to initialise as msdos (MBR), aix, amiga, bsd, dvh, gpt, mac, pc98, sun, loop.

When I missed that step, and straight away did Partition > Format to ntfs ( yes, that only selects the filesystem and not the initialisation), it formatted my 750GB drive as a GPT drive. ( It is not a >1TB or 2TB drive.)

Before I put it into GParted, I had initialised the drive with MBR, created a simple volume but did not format and Windows Disk Management showed it as RAW as expected (as in my post#11).

When I put it into GParted, I was surprised to find it showed the 128 MB MSR partition and three ntfs partitions which it was as a GPT disk before.Anyway I deleted all the four partitions and created a simple volume and straightaway formatted it as ntfs and the result was a GPT drive.

Anyway now I know how to make amends.

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Ahh, Lucid Puppy was, not lupu. Never mind, I see it as part of the name of the iso.
Yep, and when Rufus creates the bootable pendrive it also names it as lupu_528.

HDD was seen by my PC, but after 3rd party format it is not visible-19-03-2014-12-19-45.jpg


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19 Mar 2014   #26
Pooky1959

Windows Pro 7 32bit
 
 

Ok, I have my USB thumb drive ready.
But after reading the recent posts about mbr, GParted, etc. I'm not sure what to do with my lupu_528. Is there a tutorial on using Lucid Puppy to format?
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19 Mar 2014   #27
Torah Lishmah

Windows 7 Enterprise SP1 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jumanji View Post
With all that you never said how to initialise the disk in GParted.

Never mind. On further exploration, I found out Device > Create Partition Table > Advanced gives one the option to initialise as msdos (MBR), aix, amiga, bsd, dvh, gpt, mac, pc98, sun, loop.

When I missed that step, and straight away did Partition > Format to ntfs ( yes, that only selects the filesystem and not the initialisation), it formatted my 750GB drive as a GPT drive. ( It is not a >1TB or 2TB drive.)

Before I put it into GParted, I had initialised the drive with MBR, created a simple volume but did not format and Windows Disk Management showed it as RAW as expected (as in my post#11).

When I put it into GParted, I was surprised to find it showed the 128 MB MSR partition and three ntfs partitions which it was as a GPT disk before.Anyway I deleted all the four partitions and created a simple volume and straightaway formatted it as ntfs and the result was a GPT drive.

Anyway now I know how to make amends.
Wow, it doesn't appear that I was any help at all. Sorry about that, Bro. I was a little confused by what you were asking me [had a really bad day yesterday]. Glad you got it figured out though. GParted will do anything you need to do with a HDD, or a file system, and I've been using it for a few years now. It is absolutely reliable too, as in, it doesn't create partition or file system errors....ever. Yes, it shows the "system reserved" partition as well. I always increase that partitions size to 500MB when performing a clean install of Windows 7. GParted will also allow you to browse the files in that partition, so I add a couple of my favorite tools in that partition, such as "EasyBCD" and "Memtest86"...etc.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Pooky1959 View Post
Ok, I have my USB thumb drive ready.
But after reading the recent posts about mbr, GParted, etc. I'm not sure what to do with my lupu_528. Is there a tutorial on using Lucid Puppy to format?
Do you mean that you got the side USB ports to work with your USB 3.0 device?

The conversation Jumanji and I were having did not pertain to your thumb drive problem. He just wanted to know a few things about the GParted software program. Of which, I was no help whatsoever, and he figured it all out on his own...LOL!!
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19 Mar 2014   #28
Pooky1959

Windows Pro 7 32bit
 
 

I may not have worded that in the best way.
I don't have a thumb drive/USB problem.
My trouble is my external HDD, and as suggested I made a lupu_528 for the purpose of formatting said drive.
I tried to follow the conversation about the use of the lupu_528 drive. But now I am not sure how to proceed.
My External HDD is now in good health, but RAW. I want to use it for back-ups and imaging my C drive and another external HDD.
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19 Mar 2014   #29
Torah Lishmah

Windows 7 Enterprise SP1 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Pooky1959 View Post
I may not have worded that in the best way.
I don't have a thumb drive/USB problem.
My trouble is my external HDD, and as suggested I made a lupu_528 for the purpose of formatting said drive.
I tried to follow the conversation about the use of the lupu_528 drive. But now I am not sure how to proceed.
My External HDD is now in good health, but RAW. I want to use it for back-ups and imaging my C drive and another external HDD.
Aaahh, okay, I misunderstood you. I'm going to let Jumanji take it from here then, since he has the experience with lupu_528. I've never even heard of that until now. Should you happen to need any further assistance from me, just ask and I'll chime back in. Good luck, Bro!
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19 Mar 2014   #30
jumanji

Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit
 
 

Yes indeed that was the conversation between me and Tora Lishmah on the sidelines, educating myself on using GParted while I waited for you.

Our aim now is to try to format your RAW drive with GParted in Lucid Puppy.

Here are the instructions: (actually run through before posting.)

1. Boot from your Lupu pendrive and allow Lucid Puppy to load. This may take a few minutes.

2. After the Welcome Screen you will get a Personalise settings screen. Just click OKAY and close it.

3. Now menu > System > GParted Partition Manager

4. In the GParted Screen, select your external "sdd USB drive" > OKAY ( Please make sure you do not have any other external HDD connected)

5. You will get a screen something like in my post #19.

6. Right click on that drive /dev/sdd1 465GB >format to > ntfs. ( For the time being don't worry about GPT and MBR. If as in the old thread referenced we can successfully format your drive, we can tackle that later.)

7. Click on Apply.

Let us see if format is successful.

To close Lupu menu > Shutdown > reboot computer. In the next screen asking you to save or not , press N. You will get back into Windows.

If you have any problem, Torah Lishmah can help you even if I go to sleep early today or go missing in the Malaysian Airlines MH 370.
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