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Windows 7: A few questions for setting up my new SSD

12 Apr 2014   #1
JohnnyScience

Windows 7 64 & Ubuntu 64
 
 
A few questions for setting up my new SSD

Ok so I received my Samsung Evo 250g SSD today & would like to get it installed this weekend but want to ask a few questions before starting.

I understand it's best to do a fresh, clean install of Win7 specifically for an SSD to get the best results out of it, so that's what I will do. But I need a lot of stuff from the HDD.

Do I just install Win7 64 like normal & use my original key code? There won't be any license or useability issue with jumping back & forth from HDD to SSD until the transition is complete? My HDD has 5+ years of stuff on it so it's going to take some time to get everything from it to the SSD.

Is there a program to transfer other programs from HDD to SSD that is free & easy to use?

Do I/should I register this for the warranty or does it just hold the warranty until there is an issue and then you do the warranty info?

What do you guys suggest for a SSD to HDD adapter/cage so that the SSD will fit in the hard drive rack like a normal HDD?

Anyone have a link to the cleanest, stripped down version of Win7 64? The disc I have is probably a couple years old at this point.

Any other suggestions or advice?

Thanks.


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12 Apr 2014   #2
ignatzatsonic

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Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JohnnyScience View Post
But I need a lot of stuff from the HDD.

Disconnect your HDD before you install to the SSD.

Do I just install Win7 64 like normal & use my original key code?

Yes. SSDs and HDDs have the same installation process.

There won't be any license or useability issue with jumping back & forth from HDD to SSD until the transition is complete? My HDD has 5+ years of stuff on it so it's going to take some time to get everything from it to the SSD.

Your Windows license has nothing to do with hard drives.

When you reconnect the HDD, it will be drive D, or E, or F or whatever. Drag your data to wherever you need it then.


Is there a program to transfer other programs from HDD to SSD that is free & easy to use?

Not if you are doing a clean install. If you don't want to do a clean install, you could use something like Macrium Reflect Free Edition to either "clone" or "image" your current hard drive C partition to the SSD. But I'd recommend a clean install.



Do I/should I register this for the warranty or does it just hold the warranty until there is an issue and then you do the warranty info?

Up to you. The warranty is good whether you register it or not. If you do register, you might get on an email list for special offers or notifications of some type. I never bother with that stuff. Keep your invoices and proof of purchase. You'll need them if it fails or if you have to return it.

What do you guys suggest for a SSD to HDD adapter/cage so that the SSD will fit in the hard drive rack like a normal HDD?

They don't have any moving parts, so anything that works is fine. Some people use Velcro. I used duct tape for a couple of years. Newegg has adapters for sale if you think you need one.

Anyone have a link to the cleanest, stripped down version of Win7 64? The disc I have is probably a couple years old at this point.



Why would the age of your disc matter? It's legit or it isn't.

If you have a valid Product Key, you could get a downloadable ISO from Digital River and burn it to a disk. Make sure you download the version that exactly matches your key. Home Premium 64-bit English or whatever the key is for.


Any other suggestions or advice?

Disconnect all hard drives and all external devices other than mouse and keyboard and monitor before the install. After install, get Windows fully updated and activated. Then do a benchmark test on the SSD to confirm it is operating up to specs and is aligned properly. Confirm defrag is turned off for the SSD. You might consider turning off hibernation if you don't use it. That saves some space on the drive. Don't worry about excessive writing to it. Other than that, treat the system just like you would with an HDD.
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12 Apr 2014   #3
Ranger4

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1
 
 

In addition to the excellent information ignatzatsonic has provided, your Samsung SSD will probably come with the Magician DVD. Install that after you get your SSD up & running, as it provides you with a lot of information & adjustments that help with the running of your SSD.

If you need any extra help please post back.
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12 Apr 2014   #4
badger906

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, & Mac OS X 10.9.2
 
 

you can download the latest patched version of windows from microsoft and burn it to dvd and or put it on a usb stick.

as stated its best to fully remove your old drive prior to installing. as well as remembering to set your ssd as the primary boot drive in the bios.

once installed you can connect your old hard drive and windows will just recognise it as a slave drive allowing you to copy files too and from it. You may run into ownership issues when transfering some files but being an admin should resolve that.

as for attaching your ssd to the case, you can litteraly mount it anywhere, screw it to anything and or velcrow it to the under side of your dvd drive if you have one!
I have 2 of my ssds mounted to the back of the motherboard tray, so they sit flat against the back.
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12 Apr 2014   #5
crawfish

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

"Magician" purposely interferes with sleep and can cause BSODs. For more, see:

Samsung Magician and TRIM message
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12 Apr 2014   #6
Ranger4

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by crawfish View Post
"Magician" purposely interferes with sleep and can cause BSODs. For more, see:

Samsung Magician and TRIM message
I use the Samsung Magician with my Samsung 840 Pro 256Gb SSD & I have never had any problems with it at all.
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12 Apr 2014   #7
JohnnyScience

Windows 7 64 & Ubuntu 64
 
 

For some reason I can't find the Win7 64 download any where, I guess I'll just use my original install CD dated 2009. Unless there are benefits to using the most recent updated version? For the life of me I can't find it on digital river and windows only seems to have 8.1 stuff right now, maybe I'm blind but I searched google.

So I don't know what to do about this Magician software? It sounds beneficial in what it can do, but if it crashes & causes BSOD I don't want to do it. Is it just a one time thing to set/adjust settings or a constant program the runs in the background?

I want to do a clean install because I was told doing a copy from HDD to SSD isn't proper because the Windows adjust some settings for the SSD that it doesn't for an HDD - is this true?

But if I do a clean install, isn't there a way to transfer programs/files over if my old HDD will become a slave once I plug it back in after getting the new SSD installed & running?

So even though I will disconnect all other drive, the SSD won't set itself up as C drive?

I can still change this later on in disk format if it doesn't correct?

Also I would like to add a partition for quick & easy disc restore, any suggestions on how to do that when setting up the SSD? Or should I just not partition it & keep the CD? (i have a book of CDs for the computer anyways)
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12 Apr 2014   #8
derekimo

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JohnnyScience View Post
For some reason I can't find the Win7 64 download any where, I guess I'll just use my original install CD dated 2009. Unless there are benefits to using the most recent updated version? For the life of me I can't find it on digital river and windows only seems to have 8.1 stuff right now, maybe I'm blind but I searched google.

Here you go, scroll down to the English versions, SP1 U versions are the most recent.

Windows 7 Direct Download Links, Official Disk Images from Digital River
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12 Apr 2014   #9
JohnnyScience

Windows 7 64 & Ubuntu 64
 
 

Thank you, downloading now.
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12 Apr 2014   #10
Ranger4

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1
 
 

JohnnyScience:

You seem worried about using the Magician program with your new SSD. I don't think those worries are justified as I am sure there are thousands of people using it without any problems.
It allows you to adjust settings. optimise performance, install firmware updates & test performance etc.. I only run the Magician program when I need it, by having a shortcut on the desktop. I do not have it set to load on start up, or as a task bar icon. So I do not have it running in the background & I only run it when I want to.

I have attached screen shot of the Magician program menu for you to have a look at, so you can see what you can do with it.

A few questions for setting up my new SSD-magician_menu_shot.png

Personally I am not keen on creating a back up partition on my main drive, mainly because if it fails I lose my back up as well, so I cannot recover.
I think it's better to do a regular image back up to a separate drive & I use an external portable USB3 for that. I also use Macrium Reflect for the imaging & with Reflect you can create a recovery CD that can be used to boot the system, load necessary drivers so you can get to your backed up image for re installation. There is a free version of Reflect or a more advanced paid version.

I think if you disconnect all other drives & do a fresh install of Windows 7 it should be drive C, but this can be changed in Disc Management if needed.

Yes you should be able to transfer files from your old drive if required.


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