System properties - 2 CPU speeds shown?


  1. Posts : 258
    Windows Home Premium (64)
       #1

    System properties - 2 CPU speeds shown?


    I've just noticed the details in the attached screenshot.

    Can someone explain why 2 speeds are mentioned? Googling didn't help
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails System properties - 2 CPU speeds shown?-system_dsgt_01.png  
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  2. Posts : 439
    Windows 7 pro x64 SP1
       #2

    My i7 930 which is o/c from 2.8 to 3.8 shows :

    i7 CPU 930 @ 2.80GHz 3.80GHz

    which I guess is nominal vs actual. Since your i7 860 is nominal 2.80GHz, your snip suggests it is running below spec. What do hardware monitoring progs say about the speed eg CPU-Z, Open Hardware Monitor etc ?

    Just to confuse things, my 2600K (3.4 o/c to 4.6) shows

    i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHZ 3.39GHz
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  3. Posts : 6,285
    Windows 10 Pro X64
       #3

    Must be nominal (designed) vs actual as 3D Jed said.

    System Properties:
    System properties - 2 CPU speeds shown?-speccycpu.jpg

    Speccy:
    System properties - 2 CPU speeds shown?-speccycpu2.jpg
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  4. Posts : 4,566
    Windows 10 Pro
       #4

    It's the speed at what the fastest your cpu can go, and the second is when your processor is idle and what it idles at. Usually.

    It varies, I think it also depends if laptop or desktop.

    Most modern CPUs will reduce its speed by lowering the multiplier and lower its voltage to conserve power when it is idle. Your CPU is currently running at 2.66GHz, but has a maximum frequency of 2.80GHz when under load.


    The second speed usually refers to the actual speed of the processor, while the first is the "Rated" speed that the processor is designed to run at. You see this most commonly if the processor is clocked down to save power when idle. It is being word-wrapped to the second line because of the width of the window.


    Source: http://superuser.com/questions/15160...nt-frequencies

    I am seeing different opinions however.

    This has good info: http://www.directron.com/fsbguide.html
    Last edited by andrew129260; 18 Apr 2014 at 17:12.
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  5. Posts : 1,872
    Windows 10 Pro x64, Windows 8.1 Pro x64, Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1,
       #5

    The first number is the specified default speed of the processor. The second is the speed the processor runs maximum in the system.
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  6. Posts : 258
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    Thread Starter
       #6

    Thank you, guys.

    I'm inclining towards the "idling speed" as described by andrew129260. Googling put this thread at the top!

    It's a tower system. Device Management shows 8 cores at 2.80GHz. The BIOS shows:
    BLCK 133.27 MHz and Turbo and non-Turbo ratios of 20.

    If the figures did show rated speed and max speed in this system, what would cause the max speed to be less that the rated speed? What can I look at?
    Last edited by DarkStar GT; 19 Apr 2014 at 17:44.
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  7. Posts : 25,847
    Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
       #7

    It all depends on the load on the system and the Power options you have set.
    Mine is at a 100% all the time because I have a lot of cooling and I really don't care how much electricity it uses.
    If the Max is set at (60%) at idle or light load you will get readings under the rated specs. Why your picture in the first post look that way I can't tell you. Could be a gigabyte motherboard.
    My Windows show 3.7 - 3.7

    System properties - 2 CPU speeds shown?-flag-pause.png





    This is what I run all the time. Idle or under load.

    Core Speed Multiplier Bus Speed Temperature Threads
    Core 0 4625.2 MHz x 37.0 125.0 MHz 24 °C APIC ID: 0
    Core 1 4625.2 MHz x 37.0 125.0 MHz 29 °C APIC ID: 2
    Core 2 4625.2 MHz x 37.0 125.0 MHz 30 °C APIC ID: 4
    Core 3 4625.2 MHz x 37.0 125.0 MHz 26 °C APIC ID: 6
    Last edited by Layback Bear; 19 Apr 2014 at 07:22.
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  8. Posts : 21,004
    Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
       #8


    Could be wrong but to me it seems like normal and turbo ratings??
    ARK | Intel® Core? i7-860 Processor (8M Cache, 2.80 GHz)

    If you look at the specs you will see andas someone has already said probably down to what power you have it set to!!
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails System properties - 2 CPU speeds shown?-turbo.png  
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  9. Posts : 24,479
    Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
       #9

    DarkStar GT said:
    Thank you, guys.

    I'm inclining towards the "idling speed" as described by andrew129260. Googling put this thread at the top!

    It's a tower system. Device Managemane shows 8 cores at 2.80GHz. The BIOS shows:
    BLCK 133.27 MHz and Turbo and non-Turbo ratios of 20.

    If the figures did show rated speed and max speed in this system, what would cause the max speed to be less that the rated speed? What can I look at?
    As has been stated a few times, the higher number is the Stock Rated Speed, or frequency the CPU has been rated at by Intel. the lower number is the current frequency. Turbo speed isn't shown in System Properties. My turbo number is 3.8GHz, but...

    System properties - 2 CPU speeds shown?-cpu.png
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  10. Posts : 21,004
    Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
       #10

    Britton30 said:
    DarkStar GT said:
    Thank you, guys.

    I'm inclining towards the "idling speed" as described by andrew129260. Googling put this thread at the top!

    It's a tower system. Device Managemane shows 8 cores at 2.80GHz. The BIOS shows:
    BLCK 133.27 MHz and Turbo and non-Turbo ratios of 20.

    If the figures did show rated speed and max speed in this system, what would cause the max speed to be less that the rated speed? What can I look at?
    As has been stated a few times, the higher number is the Stock Rated Speed, or frequency the CPU has been rated at by Intel. the lower number is the current frequency. Turbo speed isn't shown in System Properties. My turbo number is 3.8GHz, but...

    System properties - 2 CPU speeds shown?-cpu.png
    Sorry I thought we were discussing the CPU which is the one I linked to the previous post - my mistake.
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