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Windows 7: Is it time to buy a new CPU (or MB)?

28 Apr 2014   #11
pintree3

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 

Thanks to all of you. I really appreciate it. From what I gather it is being suggested I get a new video card instead. Also a new Hard drive (an SSD).
When I 1st bought my PC I had bought a small hard drive, the ''WDC WD1500HLFS-01G6U3 (150.04 GB) " Precisely because I wanted speed over size. I also bought a Tagan BZ Series 800W power supply to help support all that it would contain (3 hard drives, a CDr and DVD-r, drives, video card etc.--some left-overs from my previous PC).
Now, with windows updates, Adobe CS6 suite updates and other software updates, this drive is getting full so changing it to an SSD may be a good idea.
As to the Radeon R9 280(x) it seems there is a difference of about $100 from one maker to an other. And it looks like (here in Canada at least) that upgrading both would cost me about $500 after taxes. Anyhow thanks again and continue to look forward to your opinions.


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28 Apr 2014   #12
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

I agree the SSD is a modest investment for a significant improvement and it can be used on a new PC if and when you get one. I would check that any new GPU will support CS6 acceleration since I don't think you can guarantee they all do.

I stumbled across this for what it's worth
http://robertoblake.com/blog/2014/01...ard-photoshop/
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29 Apr 2014   #13
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

3 items you could get and use now, and put into a new rig later.

1) SSD
2) Graphics Card
3) PSU
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29 Apr 2014   #14
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Boozad View Post
True John, but if the budget for a new machine is out of reach a new GPU can really make a big difference when it comes to gaming. Even a 750ti at $150 or so would be a massive boost over the OP's current GPU. Stretch to a 760 to last a couple of years and the difference would be massive.

Again, all dependent on the PSU first...
Yep mate wasn't criticising if it sounded that way I agree the new GPU would be the (in my mind) the only thing that I would be changing on that machine.
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29 Apr 2014   #15
pintree3

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 

2 questions if I may. It has been mentioned getting a new PSU. Are you guys saying that my ''Tagan BZ Series 800W" is not good enough? It was designed for high-end computers and the specs are way up there so this seems strange to me. More info would be nice.
Also: It also seems that getting a new video card is on top of the list here--to the point that just about any new video card would be a great improvement on what I have now. Is my video card that bad? or have video cards improved that much in the last 3-4 years to suggest this? Thanks again
One more question if I may. According to 2 sources, including PC Magazine, if I get an SSD card I should also get a ''SATA 6-gbps controller card'' to go with it. Any comments on this?
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29 Apr 2014   #16
Boozad

W7 Pro x64 SP1 | W10 Pro IP x64 | W8.1 Pro x64 VM | Linux Mint VM
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICit2lol View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Boozad View Post
True John, but if the budget for a new machine is out of reach a new GPU can really make a big difference when it comes to gaming. Even a 750ti at $150 or so would be a massive boost over the OP's current GPU. Stretch to a 760 to last a couple of years and the difference would be massive.

Again, all dependent on the PSU first...
Yep mate wasn't criticising if it sounded that way I agree the new GPU would be the (in my mind) the only thing that I would be changing on that machine.
No no, I knew you weren't critcising mate and I would agree that a new rig would be the ideal scenario (I ended up buying two new ones last year myself). Given the OP's circumstances though I was just pointing out to him the benefits of new GPU. And of course the new GPU could be carried over to his new rig when he eventually buys one.
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29 Apr 2014   #17
Boozad

W7 Pro x64 SP1 | W10 Pro IP x64 | W8.1 Pro x64 VM | Linux Mint VM
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pintree3 View Post
2 questions if I may. It has been mentioned getting a new PSU. Are you guys saying that my ''Tagan BZ Series 800W" is not good enough? It was designed for high-end computers and the specs are way up there so this seems strange to me. More info would be nice.
Nobody has recommended a new PSU so far, as far as I can see this is the first time you've mentioned what PSU you have. An 800W would be ample for virtually all systems, including ones with higher end GPUs, although I have no experience with Tagan PSUs whatsoever. My personal recommendation for PSUs is always Corsair.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pintree3 View Post
Also: It also seems that getting a new video card is on top of the list here--to the point that just about any new video card would be a great improvement on what I have now. Is my video card that bad? or have video cards improved that much in the last 3-4 years to suggest this? Thanks again
Graphics cards are improved upon every year, AMD and nVidia release a new series every year which supersede the last ones, or at least are supposed to (a GTX 770 is apparently a rebranded GTX 680, so while it may not be new architecture it is better than a 670). For example, a GTX 580 is no match for a GTX 780 even though there are only a couple of years between the two. Plus a 5770 isn't exactly a high end card, this isn't being detrimental to your card either, it's just stating a fact. An upgrade in this area would make a huge difference to gaming for you.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pintree3 View Post
One more question if I may. According to 2 sources, including PC Magazine, if I get an SSD card I should also get a ''SATA 6-gbps controller card'' to go with it. Any comments on this?
Looking at your motherboard specs it already has a SATA 6G/bs controller. Link.
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29 Apr 2014   #18
badger906

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, & Mac OS X 10.9.2
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pintree3 View Post
One more question if I may. According to 2 sources, including PC Magazine, if I get an SSD card I should also get a ''SATA 6-gbps controller card'' to go with it. Any comments on this?
Your powersupply is fine, 800w is more than ample for single GPUs.

Graphics cards advance on a monthly basis a high end card from 2 years ago would make a mid tear card now!

As for the "SATA 6gbps control card", your motherboard already has a 6gbps controller in the form of a Marvel smart controller.

Just attach any SATA3 SSD to a 6gbps SATA3 port
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29 Apr 2014   #19
Lava King

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

pintree3,

I agree with everyone else, that for gaming performance, the single-most effective upgrade will be a graphics card.

My current gaming system is a generation older (Intel Core 2 Quad X9650) than yours. When I upgraded it from a GTX 560 Ti to a GTX 780 the difference was like night and day.

Games such as Borderlands 2, Dead Island Riptide, Assetto Corsa, etc. run at an acceptable frame rate (60 fps or higher) with the settings maxed out at a resolution of 2560 x 1600 on the GTX 780. On the GTX 560 Ti, I was lucky to get 30 fps on some games at a resolution of 1920 x 1200. Of course, the performance will be lower on the games that depend heavily on the CPU.


Kent
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30 Apr 2014   #20
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lava King View Post
pintree3,

I agree with everyone else, that for gaming performance, the single-most effective upgrade will be a graphics card.

My current gaming system is a generation older (Intel Core 2 Quad X9650) than yours. When I upgraded it from a GTX 560 Ti to a GTX 780 the difference was like night and day.

Games such as Borderlands 2, Dead Island Riptide, Assetto Corsa, etc. run at an acceptable frame rate (60 fps or higher) with the settings maxed out at a resolution of 2560 x 1600 on the GTX 780. On the GTX 560 Ti, I was lucky to get 30 fps on some games at a resolution of 1920 x 1200. Of course, the performance will be lower on the games that depend heavily on the CPU.


Kent
I agre with Lava my tester is powered by a Q9650 and flipping in an Asus GTX 650 over the old original plodder made all the difference in the world.
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