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Windows 7: SSD or HD won't boot but it does if....

02 Jun 2014   #11
pintree3

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 
A strange thing is happening

Thanks rvcjew. A strange is happening. As mentioned above the PC would not boot getting instead the black DOS screen stating there was no OS. This happened 6 or 7 times as I was trying to figure things out.
This went on numerous times and forgetting to remove the other HD meant it would not start again-- this happened perhaps 2 or 3 more times.
Then while working I updated a software which had nothing to do with hardware or anything else mentioned here. I was asked to reboot and so I did. Once the reboot process had started I suddenly remembered, "Oh no my other drive is connected" meaning it was not going to boot and I would have to wait to shut it down BUT somehow it did boot. How could this be? I was always but always getting the black screen message. So for the fun of it I did it again I rebooted with the 2nd drive still attached and yup it booted fine. Then I turned it off and tried it that way and once again it booted fine.
Mind you though it seems to be booting fine I still don't trust it. How could I?
I also set my PC to hibernate instead of sleep seeing that both the lifehacker website and PC mag seemed to say it cone be done with an SSD and the difference would be minimal and yet getting the PC to wakeup again after gibernation took an extra 40 seconds telling me the SSD is defnitely not working the way it is supposed to.


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02 Jun 2014   #12
rvcjew

7 Pro x64, 10 Pro x64
 
 

to get the pc to instantly wake up from hibernation you need to use something like Intel Rapid Start and your system has to be setup in RAID for this to work and normally its slow unless used in windows 8 with uefi. i don't think iv ever had windows 7 boot up pretty quick from hibernate. It sounds like windows finished installing drivers for your PCI-e device.
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03 Jun 2014   #13
pintree3

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by rvcjew View Post
to get the pc to instantly wake up from hibernation you need to use something like Intel Rapid Start and your system has to be setup in RAID for this to work and normally its slow unless used in windows 8 with uefi. i don't think iv ever had windows 7 boot up pretty quick from hibernate. It sounds like windows finished installing drivers for your PCI-e device.
What the lifehacker site says after exaplining hibernation is, "with an SSD in your system, it should wake up fairly quickly, so the big downside of hibernation isn't as much of an issue."
And it says to do so this way, "open up Command Prompt as an administrator (by right clicking on it) and type powercfg /hibernate on. Then, open up the start menu and type in "power options" and hit enter. Click the link on the left that says "Change when the computer sleeps""
And that's what I did so since I had also read this in PC magazine I thought it a good thing. So either what they are saying as having an SSD, makes the problem ''no longer an issue'' is true and therefore mine taking so long shows there is something wrong. OR their meaning of ''no longer an issue'' and taking 40 seconds is short for them but isn't really short.
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03 Jun 2014   #14
pintree3

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 

Oh about: "It sounds like windows finished installing drivers for your PCI-e device."
That would be odd. The PCI-e device was installed weeks before I even received the SSD. So it would have plenty of time to install drivers. And also since the SSD installation nothing new has been installed--no new drivers visibly shown on the bottom right of the desktop. Windows did add drivers but that was for my new Samsung phone--so I would assume not related
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03 Jun 2014   #15
rvcjew

7 Pro x64, 10 Pro x64
 
 

If you boot up your pc from off with the ssd in how fast is it to the login screen?
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03 Jun 2014   #16
pintree3

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 

With nothing open on my PC I rebooted. It took 17 seconds to shut down and from there I continued the count, 17, 18, 19.... Windows was seen again (The windows sound, since no log in is required) at 75 seconds (and then an additional 15 seconds or so for Skype and other services to load).
As to the Speccy file I was not sure if you wanted a snapshot (.speccy extension-now as a zip file) or text file so I added both.


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04 Jun 2014   #17
rvcjew

7 Pro x64, 10 Pro x64
 
 

the speccy unfortunately does not show the device its connected to but that sounds very slow for a ssd boot. on page 2-23 of your manual for the board it should explain how to set the boot priority you want to make sure fast boot and that card is the first option. also is your storage set to AHCI, or IDE?
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09 Jun 2014   #18
pintree3

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by rvcjew View Post
go into the bios with both devices in the motherboard and make sure your pci-e is the first boot device when both are plugged in. it may not show up under sata but in the boot order location under HDD priority it should say something like pci device, make it that then under normal the normal order menu make it before the optical and other HDD's.

rvcjew
In the BIOS what it had as 1st boot device was external device which meant it can not boot from there, the 2nd choice was the SSD (the 3d the dvd).
I swtiched it making the SSD 1st, DVD 2nd. On booting now, there is the same msg as before. Press any key to exit the PCi2-SSD.
Anyhow after the BIOS change I rebooted 3X. Below is the average
11 seconds Shut down :
17 seconds (added to above) Black screen:
28 sec Beep:
35 sec Black screen:
42 sec "Starting Windows'' black screen with spinning logo
63 sec Welcome screen
66 sec Windows starting sound
After this Services and things like Skype load.
So it seems I save 9 seconds but possibly still slower than it should be, correct?
And why the ''Press any key to exit" thing? This is probably why it isn't working as it should and obviously if I did press any key it wouldn't start since that is the booting choice.
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