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Windows 7: Thoughts on a solid state drive?

06 Jul 2014   #11
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

SSD's from a reputable manufacturer are blazing fast, and reliable as the day is long. According to some torture tests that have been done, some will write several thousand terabytes of information before they just go bad.........several thousand terabytes, or several petabytes. Let that sink in. Your hard drives will likely go bad before a good SSD will.


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06 Jul 2014   #12
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

This is an extremely long thread, but it is what Kbrady was talking about. SSDs are more reliable than mechanical hard drives, and will typically last much longer. SSD Write Endurance 25nm Vs 34nm - Page 56
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06 Jul 2014   #13
King Arthur

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
You must be using some pretty crappy SSDs, then, or they weren't set up properly because that definitely hasn't been my experience. My desktop computer runs 24/7 and I reboot only once a week or so and I still wouldn't have a computer without an SSD. Besides faster boot times, programs start faster and, if programs have to access modules frequently, they do so faster.
The SSDs used in the computers in question are Intel SSDs and as far as I am aware have been setup properly, the operating system on them are Windows 7. Indeed, there is a noticable boost in boot and execution times (among others) compared to HDD systems, but the performance difference is honestly not worthy of saying "wow I cannot live without SSDs" under average computer use situations.
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06 Jul 2014   #14
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

King Arthur I'm sorry you have had a bad experience with your ssd.
As you can see reading this thread the rest of us have nothing but good to say about ssd's.

Price is relative to ones desires and ability to pay.

Here is example of two Intel 120 gb ssd I have bought and still use.

March 2011 $286.00
June 2014 $100.00

Bought both from the same local dealer.
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06 Jul 2014   #15
lffoar

Windows 7 home premium 64bit
 
 

Go for it Max. I'm no computer wiz but I've found the difference in speed is night and day. I researched a lot before settling on the Samsung 840 Pro and picked up a 256gb for $165 Australian. A WD 1tb black at the same time cost me $90 but I'm glad I went for the SSD as the primary drive. I've got Windows 7 O/S, Microsoft office, all the necessary antivirus and malware programs plus various other programs to cover everything I want to do. Total space taken up on the SSD is only just 70gb so I still have around 170gb to play with and still have the WD spinner for storage and any rarely used programs. Best decision I've made since I left home to get a newspaper in 1975 and never went back!
Pros: faster, quieter, more reliable
Cons: A bit more cost but well worth it.
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06 Jul 2014   #16
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

Storage is still the slowest piece of hardware in your computer. Slower than the CPU, Graphics card and RAM. A hard drive is exponentially slower than an SSD and an SSD is still slower than the other components. For the foreseeable future, that's the way it's gonna be.........storage is gonna be the bottleneck in any system. That being said, there is no area in which an SSD doesn't outperform a HDD by a substantial amount......sequential read/write, Random 4k's and access times. It's been said above in this thread, but I will stress this point......there is absolutely no piece of hardware you can buy that will be more significant an upgrade than an SSD. So by adding an SSD into your system, you are boosting the slowest component up a substantial amount, and getting it closer in terms of raw speed to your other components.

Once you get an SSD, you will never settle for less.
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06 Jul 2014   #17
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lffoar View Post
Go for it Max. I'm no computer wiz but I've found the difference in speed is night and day. I researched a lot before settling on the Samsung 840 Pro and picked up a 256gb for $165 Australian. A WD 1tb black at the same time cost me $90 but I'm glad I went for the SSD as the primary drive. I've got Windows 7 O/S, Microsoft office, all the necessary antivirus and malware programs plus various other programs to cover everything I want to do. Total space taken up on the SSD is only just 70gb so I still have around 170gb to play with and still have the WD spinner for storage and any rarely used programs. Best decision I've made since I left home to get a newspaper in 1975 and never went back!
Pros: faster, quieter, more reliable
Cons: A bit more cost but well worth it.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kbrady1979 View Post
Storage is still the slowest piece of hardware in your computer. Slower than the CPU, Graphics card and RAM. A hard drive is exponentially slower than an SSD and an SSD is still slower than the other components. For the foreseeable future, that's the way it's gonna be.........storage is gonna be the bottleneck in any system. That being said, there is no area in which an SSD doesn't outperform a HDD by a substantial amount......sequential read/write, Random 4k's and access times. It's been said above in this thread, but I will stress this point......there is absolutely no piece of hardware you can buy that will be more significant an upgrade than an SSD. So by adding an SSD into your system, you are boosting the slowest component up a substantial amount, and getting it closer in terms of raw speed to your other components.

Once you get an SSD, you will never settle for less.
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06 Jul 2014   #18
Indianatone

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate and numerous virtual machines
 
 

I have 2 computers with SSD's and one SSD shipping to me as I type. My wife and I have a Toshiba 256 GB SSD boot drive in our main machines. I have a Kingston 120 GB one in a 2009 Dell T3400 Precision workstation which I think is SATA II. I put a Kingston 120 GB drive in an Asus Eepc and it made the netbook very responsive and usable. In all cases the computers are far faster than increasing the ram CPU speed or any other tweaks you can think of. The operating system boots in seconds and the programs start instantly. On the point of long term reliability there have been horror stories but they are generally more reliable and not susceptible to shock. They have no moving parts. I am saving up for another 256 GB SSD for my other main PC. An SSD is the best upgrade you can make for a PC without doubt.

The Kingston drive is here: Amazon.com: Kingston Digital 120GB SSDNow V300 SATA 3 2.5 (7mm height) with Adapter Solid State Drive 2.5-Inch SV300S37A/120G: Computers & Accessories

The Toshiba Amazon.com: Toshiba 256GB Q Series Pro PC Internal Solid State Drive (HDTS325XZSTA): Computers & Accessories

My aim is to put SSD boot drives in all my computers over the next year or so. 256 GB for the better machines and 120GB for the rest.
Get an SSD, you will not regret it.
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06 Jul 2014   #19
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kbrady1979 View Post
Storage is still the slowest piece of hardware in your computer. Slower than the CPU, Graphics card and RAM. A hard drive is exponentially slower than an SSD and an SSD is still slower than the other components. For the foreseeable future, that's the way it's gonna be.........storage is gonna be the bottleneck in any system. That being said, there is no area in which an SSD doesn't outperform a HDD by a substantial amount......sequential read/write, Random 4k's and access times. It's been said above in this thread, but I will stress this point......there is absolutely no piece of hardware you can buy that will be more significant an upgrade than an SSD. So by adding an SSD into your system, you are boosting the slowest component up a substantial amount, and getting it closer in terms of raw speed to your other components.

Once you get an SSD, you will never settle for less.
Just for an example, the access time (from the time you push the button until the hard drive starts opening the program) for the average Mechanical hard drive is 14-15ms, the access time for any decent SSD is 0.1ms.
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06 Jul 2014   #20
kbrady1979

Windows 7 Professional 64bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kbrady1979 View Post
Storage is still the slowest piece of hardware in your computer. Slower than the CPU, Graphics card and RAM. A hard drive is exponentially slower than an SSD and an SSD is still slower than the other components. For the foreseeable future, that's the way it's gonna be.........storage is gonna be the bottleneck in any system. That being said, there is no area in which an SSD doesn't outperform a HDD by a substantial amount......sequential read/write, Random 4k's and access times. It's been said above in this thread, but I will stress this point......there is absolutely no piece of hardware you can buy that will be more significant an upgrade than an SSD. So by adding an SSD into your system, you are boosting the slowest component up a substantial amount, and getting it closer in terms of raw speed to your other components.

Once you get an SSD, you will never settle for less.
Just for an example, the access time (from the time you push the button until the hard drive starts opening the program) for the average Mechanical hard drive is 14-15ms, the access time for any decent SSD is 0.1ms.
Very true......and that is Real World performance that you can feel. Random 4K Reads/Writes are exponentially faster as well, which is what the OS consists of. Here is a snippet of my Samsung 830 SSD and a Seagate 7200 RPM 2TB HDD......note the difference in 4K scores.

Thoughts on a solid state drive?-8-24-test-1.jpg Thoughts on a solid state drive?-seagate-barracuda.jpg


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