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Windows 7: Out at last??

30 Aug 2014   #11
carwiz

Windows 7 Pro-x64
 
 

The i7-5820 has 28 PCI lanes. The i7-5930 and i7-5960 have 40 PCI lanes. And yes, while the socket is listed as 2011, it is actually 2011-v3 and new motherboards are required. Maximum memory transfer is listed as 68GB/s over four channels. The DDR-4 memory modules compatible with the memory controller are listed as 1333/1600/2133 so there's no speed increase there. The speed is most likely in the timings.

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30 Aug 2014   #12
HarriePateman

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

Ohhh, so is this going to be worth the extra money?
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30 Aug 2014   #13
carwiz

Windows 7 Pro-x64
 
 

The 6 and 8 cores are what you're paying for. I'm still carrying my disappointment since Sandy Bridge on the slow rise in clock speeds. Of course 8 cores as 3.0Ghz will smoke my 4 cores at 3.5Ghz. But still, they should be in the 5.0 range by now.
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30 Aug 2014   #14
TVeblen

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Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by HarriePateman View Post
Whats the advantage of ddr4? Speed?
Shamelessly ripped off from Wikepedia:
The primary advantages of DDR4 as opposed to its predecessor, DDR3, include higher module density and lower voltage requirements, coupled with higher data rate transfer speeds. DDR4 operates at a voltage of 1.2V with transfer rates of between 1600 and 3200 Mbps, compared to data rates of between 800 and 2133 Mbps and voltage requirement of 1.5 or 1.65V of DDR3. Although a low-voltage standard has yet to be finalized, it is anticipated that low-voltage DDR4 will run at a voltage of 1.05V, compared to DDR3's low-voltage standard (DDR3L) which requires 1.35V to operate. DDR4 modules can also be manufactured at twice the density of DDR3.
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30 Aug 2014   #15
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

The DDR4 standard is Intel's, but the boards will run faster memory. Just like my Z77 board. The Ivy Bridge chips say DDR3-1600 is the rated speed, but I'm running DDR3-2400 @2400. Most of the boards are claiming to range from 2800-300 speeds.

I have read that there are 16GB ram modules 'out', but I have yet to see one. Rumor has it, we will see them before long.
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30 Aug 2014   #16
TVeblen

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My understanding is that they make up that speed using the clocks Steve. The base speed of the chip is 800 but it runs at 2 clocks for 1600, 3 clocks for 2400, etc. I know that forr DDR3 there were mostly 800 and 1066 chips available to make a module. There were some 1333 chips but they were ungodly expensive.

EDIT: not clocks - errr. The double data rate. 800 x 2=1600. 1066 x2= 2100. 1333 x 3= 2666.
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30 Aug 2014   #17
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Double data rate is right, but now I guess we are going to see quad data rate. But, the speed Intel reefer's to is the end speed, 800X2=1600, with my CPU. But I'm running 1200 X 2=2400. The board is capable of running it faster.
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30 Aug 2014   #18
TVeblen

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Yes, you can overclock it till it crashes. Fun fun.

The DDR = double data rate. That does not change. The 4 in DDR4 just means 4th generation chips.
The chips are the individual units that are soldered to and make up a module. I think Micron and someone else are the only players now making chips. As I understand it the 4th Gen chips run at a faster base speed and they are smaller so you can fit more of them on a standard size module. So we should see larger GB modules and faster total speed without overclocking.
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30 Aug 2014   #19
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
...I have read that there are 16GB ram modules 'out', but I have yet to see one. Rumor has it, we will see them before long.
Newegg.com - ddr4
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30 Aug 2014   #20
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

What am I missing Jeannie? I still don't see any 16GB modules.
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