optimize Windows7 for SSD

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  1. Posts : 20,583
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       #11

    Also use this in command prompt post the readout
    Show Us Your WEI [4]
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  2. Posts : 86
    Windows7 64bit
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       #12

    Thx a lot I will disable Disk Indexing on my PC.
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  3. Posts : 355
    Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit, Manjaro Xfce, Debian 10 64bit Xfce
       #13

    upiter77 said:
    Thx a lot I will disable Disk Indexing on my PC.
    Just chiming in here with my 2 cents' worth, so take it at face value.

    I uncheck this on my SSD drives (actually, all of my drives) so that the contents aren't indexed, but then go into Indexing Options in the Control Panel, select the drive to Modify, and then have the whole drive and its files indexed this way. I also remove any of the other target locations from specifically being indexed.

    Personal preference likely plays a fair role here too as well as the specific scenario. I don't use a page file on one of my SSD computers, because I have 64GB of RAM on that one and don't suffer from crashes (excluding when I've done overclock testing on it, pushing it to its limits). In the unlikely event that it does crash, my priority would be getting it back up and running (even from a backup, if needed) and I honestly most likely wouldn't bother checking out the crash memory dump either way. On the other hand, on my laptop before changing it over to running Debian primarily, I left the page file there just in case, because it only has 8GB of RAM.

    I actually change the SuperFetch service to starting automatically on SSDs as a slight performance boost, even though it likely isn't perceivable with fast SSDs anyway, but also because my main computer is up and running, crunching for BOINC almost all the time and generally has a fair amount of RAM available, even with using 32GB of it for a RAM drive. Since my main computer is up and running, I run the same programs and use many of the same files multiple different times which to some extent are being held, buffered in RAM for when I need them. Over time I've gotten the Standby buffer size upwards of 40GB before, as I recall, but I don't currently have that much RAM unused and available.

    I also have my Windows SSD computers set up to delete files directly instead of having them go to the Recycle Bin. I just make sure not to delete files that I don't actually want to delete. I still have it prompt me to make sure that I want to delete them though. This likely isn't something most people would want set up on their computers. Alternatively, I suppose if someone wanted to help obscure their previous file history for some reason, they might want to have this set up.

    The next difference would be that I use over provisioning on SSDs to help extend their lifetime performance and reliability, but at the cost of having to not use a portion of the drive's space. On my Samsung 840 and 850 EVO SSDs, I also enable RAPID mode which is basically a somewhat dynamic capacity and data priority adjusting RAM cache for the drives.

    There are other minor tweaks people sometimes make, such as using a HDD as a storage drive for media if they have one available, and relocating temporary file folders to a HDD. I do use a HDD in my main computer as a storage drive for media and backups, and then have another external HDD for backups and bulk storage transfer. I leave temp folders on the SSDs though, since I want them to be nice and snappy when they're in use.

    I'm not suggesting that you need to do these things, mind you. The main things you will want to do are checking and seeing if TRIM is enabled and enabling it if it isn't, making sure you're running in AHCI mode, and check if the SSD partition is aligned. These things should be the default these days, but sometimes weird things happen, so it's good to check.

    Cheers.
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  4. Posts : 86
    Windows7 64bit
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       #14

    Thx a lot.

    Now I have a question to Power Settings, if something should be done to save long life of a SSD.
    I need to know if "Hibernate" and "Allow Hybrid Sleep" should be deactivated for SSD?
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  5. Posts : 20,583
    Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
       #15

    Hi,
    In win-7 hibernation/ hybrid sleep is harmless
    Win-8 and now 10 not so harmless depending on how you use other interior and exterior drives.

    Hibernation does give a false sense of a computers state = no lights on at all looks like the machine is in full shut down mode
    If not using a password this can be a security risk anyone that pushes the power button is directed directly to your open user account = the security risk part.

    Hyper sleep about the same
    I really just use normal sleep with a screen saver playing continuously with a timer will go to a light flashing indicating the machine is sleeping not hibernating with no lights flashing.

    I do not disable hibernation a lot of people do but it's a good fail safe feature in win-7 in case a power outage occurs better on a laptop too because of battery loss but then again if you a UPS battery backup you really wouldn't need hibernation at all on a desktop or if a laptop is connected to it too.

    So yes it does depend
    Hibernation state with a password is no different than full shut down so use full shut down for the cleanest restart.
    I personally don't leave a machine on 24/7/365 I shut down every night or when I leave to work...
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  6. Posts : 86
    Windows7 64bit
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       #16

    Thx a lot, but what is the difference between a "Normal Sleep" and "Hybrid Sleep" ?
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  7. Posts : 12,012
    Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
       #17

    upiter77 said:
    Thx a lot.

    Now I have a question to Power Settings, if something should be done to save long life of a SSD.
    I need to know if "Hibernate" and "Allow Hybrid Sleep" should be deactivated for SSD?
    The primary reason you'd deactivate hibernation is if you wanted to save space on the SSD.

    Hibernation takes up considerable space if you use it. Do you?

    If not, no need to keep it. May as well save the space. I don't use it and never have.
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  8. Posts : 20,583
    Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
       #18

    Hi,
    Hybrid sleep will fall into hibernation after a while it has a timer you can manually set on a Balanced power plan,
    Regular sleep will never hibernate if hibernation is timed so high it would never have the ability to do so.

    I'm personally on a Performance power plan with simpler setting with items either on or off,
    Power Plan - Select

    Power Plan Settings - Change
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  9. Posts : 355
    Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit, Manjaro Xfce, Debian 10 64bit Xfce
       #19

    I use hibernate on my laptop as a backup save of sorts in case my laptop gets to critically low battery levels. (The laptop is now using Debian/KDE instead of Windows 8.1, but that is a moot point as this setting is an option in either OS, Windows 7 included. I have it set up similarly on my wife's Windows 7 laptop.) I don't use hibernate on my main "desktop" computer and have it disabled. My main computer is up and running nearly all the time. All of these computers use SSDs as their main boot OS drives.

    I only use custom power plans and remove/uninstall any pre-installed plan options that may come with the computer (ASUS laptops my case).

    As others have said, if you don't use hibernate, then go ahead and disable it.
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