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Windows 7: Is my HD in the right place and configured/being read correctly?

27 Oct 2014   #1
pintree3

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 
Is my HD in the right place and configured/being read correctly?

Not sure about my title.
Recently I replaced my older normal hard drive for an SSD (Samsung EVO840). Because I could not place it directly on my motherboard I is hooked via a PCIe card.
2 things came about:
-1- On my Windows taskbar bottom right corner I have it listed as a drive I can actually remove/eject
and
-2- While my original drive holding my OS on the C:drive was listed (I think) in Computer Management-->
Disk Management as 'Disk 0' my SSD is 'Disk 2'
Are these things OK?
Is it normal for my SSD to be ejectable and if not what should I do about it?
and
Is it OK for the SSD to be listed as 'Disk 2' instead of '0' and if not what (and how) should I do about it?
Thank you


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28 Oct 2014   #2
alexgrossman

Windows 7 Home X86
 
 

Disk 0 simply means the primary drive holding copy of OS. You should seek for better way of connecting your SSD i.e. Use SATA/USB cable. Instead, you can leave the SSD as it is. It'll do no harm to you.
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28 Oct 2014   #3
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

I don't understand. You say you can't hook the new ssd to your motherboard. What does that mean.

Your mother board has this.

Quote:
Intel® P55 chipset :
6 x SATA 3Gb/s port(s), blue
Support Raid 0, 1, 5, 10
Are all these ports occupied.

Do you have the motherboard manual?
If not get one. It's a must have.
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28 Oct 2014   #4
pintree3

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
I don't understand. You say you can't hook the new ssd to your motherboard. What does that mean.
Your mother board has this.
Quote:
Intel® P55 chipset :
6 x SATA 3Gb/s port(s), blue
Support Raid 0, 1, 5, 10
Are all these ports occupied.
Do you have the motherboard manual?
If not get one. It's a must have.
The motherboard is an: ASUSTeK P7P55D-E LX and on the MB is an 'Marvell PCIe SATA 6GB/s Controller' which is where the SSD normally would be placed BUT according to Asus one should not use it for an SSD because it is plagued with problems (and after 4years they haven't fixed it nor seem to care considering its age). Hence why I had to buy a separate, mid-quality PCIe card.
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28 Oct 2014   #5
pintree3

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by alexgrossman View Post
Disk 0 simply means the primary drive holding copy of OS. You should seek for better way of connecting your SSD i.e. Use SATA/USB cable. Instead, you can leave the SSD as it is. It'll do no harm to you.
Exactly, as you said, "Disk 0 simply means the primary drive holding copy of OS" and according to my present configuration the drive holding the OS is not 'Disk 0' but rather now sitting on 'Disk 2'
And I would assume it would be a good idea changing this so 'Disk 0' is where my OS sits (which is also my SSD) and if so how do I change it? Is it risky or what?
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28 Oct 2014   #6
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

Disc 0 refers to a port on the motherboard. According to you, all motherboard ports are associated with a Marvel controller.

I'll take your word for that. I didn't look at your manual.

Your old "normal" hard drive was presumably connected to one of those Marvel ports--quite possibly port 0.

I don't know why a Marvel port would be OK for a normal hard drive, but bad for an SSD. Marvel is not necessarily the best choice in controllers, so maybe Asus knows what they are talking about and you had little choice but to buy that PCI card. If that's true, you'll have to live with the SSD as disc 2 rather than disc 0. I had my hard drive as disc 1 for several years with no problems. There are rare circumstances when that can matter, but my memory fails me as to the details. You can't make the SSD become disc 0 without using a motherboard port as far as I know.
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28 Oct 2014   #7
pintree3

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 

Thanks ignatzatsonic
Besides helping you're also teaching me stuff and I truly am glad of this.
I was temped to try the Marvell regardless but since I am dealing with my MB and my main OS-holding hard drive I thought it best not too.
Attached are the specs (most) of my MB.
P.S. I was wondering what kind of stuff one can attach to the Marvell (since an SSD is not suggested)
I'm looking for an excuse to spend more money :-) not that I have much at this point.


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28 Oct 2014   #8
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

Below is a picture of your motherboard. Look at the lower left. You see 8 ports--2 columns of 4 ports. 6 blue and 2 white.

The white ones are Marvel SATA 6.0.

The blue ones are Intel SATA 3.0

Taking Asus at their word, don't connect the SSD to the white ports.

I don't see why you can't connect the SSD to the blue ports and bypass that PCI card you bought entirely. Intel makes good controllers. As far as I know, you would not suffer any speed penalty by going with a SATA 3.0 port rather than SATA 6.0.

My guess would be that port 0 is one of the Marvel ports, so you'd probably still end up with the SSD not being "Disc 0", but at least you'd be on a native Intel port rather than relying on an add-on card. You can confirm SSD performance on the Intel port versus the add-on card port and make your choice.

Did you talk to Asus? Not sure why they would not tell you to try the Intel ports.

Others may have other comments.


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28 Oct 2014   #9
pintree3

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 

Thanks again ignatzatsonic
Unlike your photo, my board, isn't empty and actually has stuff on it --just kidding :-)
I do wonder if you are correct--by this I do not mean you are wrong. I bought the PCIe card so it can have SATA 6.0 speeds. I read many reputable sites suggesting that if I do buy an SSD that I should strongly consider getting a PCIe 6.0 to give it its speed (and I would note the difference). Seeing a good price on a card one day (about $20 I think) I decided to go for it. What I read regarding SATA 3. vs 6. is that it wouldn't have made much of a difference with an SSD, 3--4 years ago but it may now.
Yes, there are recommendations that it isn't worth getting a new CPU or a new MB in order to get the proper 6.0 speed of a SATA 6.0 but a cheap card like mine may have been worth it. Or not. I am not hardware proficient enough to really say. On the other hand if I wouldn't really notice the difference and it could save me other headaches (which I'd like to know) in the long run then perhaps I would consider putting it back directly on the 3.0 port of my MB.
[Which still leaves me with the unrelated question: what can one add to the Marvell besides an SSD or on my PCIe card for that matter should I remove the SSD from it? a card with USB 3.0 connectors/ports perhaps?]
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28 Oct 2014   #10
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

I have a Asus motherboard with Marvell and I found that using the Intel ports work better.
I have had nothing but trouble with Marvell. In everyday use you will never notice the difference in speed.
Talking to my Intel Dealer behind closed doors Intel wishes they would of never chose Marvell because of the problems it causes.
The difference between Marvell 6.0 and Intel 3.0 will show when doing speed test with various programs but in everyday use I notice no difference. I'm also using Intel SSD's.
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