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Windows 7: CHKDSK on non C: drive

10 Nov 2014   #11
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 


Ok I am not really wanting to keep on going re the whys and wherefores oflicence agreements. All I know is that even if you could use an activation toomany times beit OEM or retail somewhere along the line Microsoft are going tobe a tad curious as to what you are doing with so many installs.



The OEM issue - it did occur to me that your statement re only using thesame brand and model MB for a particular OEM would and probably is somethingthat is not going to happen because I cannot imagine for one minute someonebuying say eight or nine boards because they have all gone wrong.



My brothers issue was the Dell factory disk was a shambles and only throughthe generosity of Microsoft and me using the ISO from Greg’s tutorial was Iable to get the Windows installed.

http://www.sevenforums.com/members/manojkr85.html#vmessage178552



Anyway I have a problem posting right now and I just hope this goes through



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10 Nov 2014   #12
Digerati

Windows 7 Profession 64-bit
 
 

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Ok I am not really wanting to keep on going re the whys and wherefores oflicence agreements. All I know is that even if you could use an activation toomany times beit OEM or retail somewhere along the line Microsoft are going tobe a tad curious as to what you are doing with so many installs.
Right! And as I noted, MS can easily tell if using a Retail license by your key codes, then precede with the authentication, or not accordingly.

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The OEM issue - it did occur to me that your statement re only using thesame brand and model MB for a particular OEM would and probably is somethingthat is not going to happen
Replacing a failed motherboard with the same brand and model happens all the time with computers still under warranty. And that is perfectly legal. What is not legal is "upgrading" the motherboard (or say, going from Intel to AMD CPU boards) because the user wants to.
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I cannot imagine for one minute someonebuying say eight or nine boards because they have all gone wrong.
Me either. At least not a private individual. But a big company that buys 200 or 300 computers in one purchase might, if 8 or 9 boards failed during the warranty period. The point being, the same terms of the license apply - whether you represent a big corporation, or just yourself.
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10 Nov 2014   #13
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Well I agree the large companies yes but in my instance the MB I have in my Ivy Bridge is very hard to get out here and I don't like resorting to Ebay or overseas because of time constraints or dodgy deals .

I don't remember stating one could change motherboards only that my brother was allowed to use the laptop with an activation code given to us very generously by Microsoft after explaining his predicament.

I think we have got off on the wrong foot and I suspect because of my badly worded first post.
Like I said I am no expert but have been doing this for some time to have a rudimentary grasp of the system and I hope we can conclude on that note because debating this over and over again is not what I suspect we both want.
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11 Nov 2014   #14
Digerati

Windows 7 Profession 64-bit
 
 

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Well I agree the large companies yes but in my instance the MB I have in my Ivy Bridge is very hard to get out here and I don't like resorting to Ebay or overseas because of time constraints or dodgy deals.
I don't buy from Ebay for that reason too.

And again, if users call MS, explain the situation and they authorize it, no problem.

And I am not trying to debate this side issue either - my only goal is to explain the facts as they are defined in our EULAs so you and others can make an informed decision.
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11 Nov 2014   #15
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Itaregid View Post
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Well I agree the large companies yes but in my instance the MB I have in my Ivy Bridge is very hard to get out here and I don't like resorting to Ebay or overseas because of time constraints or dodgy deals.
I don't buy from Ebay for that reason too.

And again, if users call MS, explain the situation and they authorize it, no problem.

And I am not trying to debate this side issue either - my only goal is to explain the facts as they are defined in our EULAs so you and others can make an informed decision.
Well like so many others I have to admit I don't fully read the EULA's but do a have a fair understanding of the rules that I have picked up from the more knowledgeable members in this forum. I know the rules enough to explain to others who don't but obviously not in the depth that you can.
Anyway it seems that we got off on a bit of a wrong foot as I took your reply as a bit of a lecture or telling your grandmother how to suck eggs and well at my age I shouldn't take it as a personal thing.
Personally I prefer hardware problems as I have been into electronics since I was a very young fellow and do this as a hobby and retirement activity - the in depth software side of things I am still not that good at but do my best using what I know to refurb machines for those who cannot afford one and fixes for anyone who asks at home or work.
Anyway I had better stop wafting on and hope that we can work together with the others within the forum to the benefit of those who are not so clued up or in need
John
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11 Nov 2014   #16
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Gentlemen this is how I keep it my 3 brain cells.

Retails are easy.
You can move Window 7 around from computer to computer as long as it is only on one (1) at a time.

The hard one OEM.
The problem arises when you have a faulty motherboard and replace it.
I had this happen. I replace the 3 months old motherboard (RMA) with a exact motherboard. I still had to call Microsoft to get it activated. It didn't take long and went smoothly.

Now a bigger problem. You need to replace the motherboard but the exactly one is not available. Therefore you have to upgrade. Now you really have to sweat talk Microsoft and at that point it's pot luck whether they will okay it.
From what I have got from other it's kind of a time judgment
on Microsoft part. If you had use of the motherboard and the operating system for years they lean to not okay the swap with a OEM COA.

That is the way I understand it and have went through it.
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11 Nov 2014   #17
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Yes Jack I agree it is my own simplistic view on it and my brothers case was purely out of luck on the day when the Microsoft fellow I spoke to was more than helpful with helping us out with a crap Dell disk my not so clued up brother had bought on Ebay.
He let me use the ISO from Gregs tutorial and gave us an activation code as well so like you say it depends on the person you speak with and I think generally speaking if you are not greedy and explain the predicate and be truthful then they are really understanding.
If one got stroppy with them then of course they are not going to come to the party - depends on your people skills
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12 Nov 2014   #18
Digerati

Windows 7 Profession 64-bit
 
 

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Now a bigger problem. You need to replace the motherboard but the exactly one is not available. Therefore you have to upgrade. Now you really have to sweat talk Microsoft and at that point it's pot luck whether they will okay it.
You got it! But, if you tell MS the truth and explain the old board failed and this new board is part of a required "repair" action and not an "elective" upgrade because you just want newer stuff, MS will approve it with no sweet talking (or sweat! ) - or always has with me.

But also, MS knows that motherboard makers are constantly coming out with new models and retiring old models. So if you "upgrade" to the model recommended by the same maker as a suitable replacement for your old board, that too is fine and MS will approve it.

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as I took your reply as a bit of a lecture
@ICit2lol - I too have been in electronics support for many years as a formally trained technician (since the early 70s). And have been "working" tech support forums for close to 15 years. I have taught electronics and trained many technicians.

Forums, by definition, are places where EVERYONE - current and future readers - can participate (or just listen in). Forum discussions are NOT one-on-one conversations. So when a question is asked, I answer to the crowd, not the individual.

So while I am answering you, I do try to speak to everyone (which includes advanced experts to total newbies). And to that, yes, it is a "bit of a lecture" - going by the first definition listed there.

My apologies if it sounded like the second definition. It is not intended that way.
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12 Nov 2014   #19
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 


Look just a quick one as my machine is losingposts and what is doing it I have no idea. But apology accepted and I know thatI may have jumped the gun. In reality I work as a Registered Nurse but have hada fascination with electronics for many years starting with vacuum tubes theninto transistors and onto IC's. Most of my stuff was audio based but with aload of gadgets such as battery condition indicators for the bike when I hadit.

Computing now is my perhaps only hobby / interest/ retirement activity as I wrecked my shoulder gold prospecting and bike ridingis out as is woodwork.

I don't know if you noticed but I did send afriendship request - not that you have to accept but for me it is all about usworking together.
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13 Nov 2014   #20
Digerati

Windows 7 Profession 64-bit
 
 

I don't have a friendship request from you, but for sure, working together is what it is all about.
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