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Windows 7: need suggestion on motherboard,SSD, VGA, and PSU

11 Nov 2014   #1
kelapa

64bit
 
 
need suggestion on motherboard,SSD, VGA, and PSU

hello,

i'm running on :
i7 3770k
700 watt PSU purepower
16gb Ram
2x HDD wdc green 2TB
Geforce GTX 550 TI
and H77M-D3H motherboard

lot of my friends said i have bad motherboard. is it true?

but then, i have some money want to be allocated on upgrade my PC.
my question is,

1. i will buy a SSD, what type or brand compatible with my motherboard?
2. i will buy new VGA, which one is good with the price below $300 or $200? will it compatible with my motherboard?
3. do i need to change my motherboard? if yes, why? i though motherboard is not too important.
4. last, if i bought your recommendation, do i need change my 700 watt PSU?

thanks a lot



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12 Nov 2014   #2
TVeblen

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1
 
 

1. An SSD is just a hard drive. Any SATA hard drive will work with any motherboard with SATA connectors. The SSD will perform better on a motherboard with a SATA3 class controller/ports. But it will work just fine on a motherboard with SATA2 controller/ports.

2. The only compatibility issue with video cards is the type of slot they fit into, and their power needs. The vast majority fit into a PCI-e x16 slot. To figure out what video cards will work in your system you look at what slot you have, how many PCI-e power connectors you have coming off your power supply, and the Amps you have available at 12v. You would then look for cards that fit those specs. Asking what video card is best is like asking what car is best. Someone might say a Lamborghini, someone else might say a Smart Car. And they would be both right (for different reasons) and both wrong because they don't know what you need.

3. Why do your friends tell you you have a bad motherboard? To me a 'bad motherboard' is one that does not work. To someone else it might mean the RAM slots are an ugly color. Point is, that this comment means nothing. If there is some function you need that you don't have on your current motherboard then that is a good reason to upgrade.

4. Depends. You can run a lot of different high power video cards off a 700 Watt power supply. But you have to have the correct connector(s) and good amperage on the 12v rail (anything over 30A will run pretty much anything).

Step 1: determine what you need and why.
Step 2: shop for and narrow down a list of affordable parts that fit that need.
Step 3: check the specs to be sure all parts are compatible with each other.

Lots of good videos online about building (applies to upgrading) a PC.

Please note that I do not recommend any products or act as a personal shopper on this forum!
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12 Nov 2014   #3
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

A bad motherboard.
I like TVeblen are thinking the same way.
If your motherboard does what it was designed to do then it's a good motherboard.
If you want a motherboard that has more abilities and option their are many choices.

A quality 700W power supply will do the job for most systems.
Notice the word quality. All 700W power supplies are not created equal.
The brand and specs will be needed to make a proper judgement.

The motherboard selection is one of the hardest thing to do when upgrading or building a new system.
You posted this.
Quote:
i though motherboard is not too important.
I have no idea how one would come up with such a thought.

Your motherboard is the controlling factor of just about everything in the computer.
Who ever is putting thoughts like this in your mind should not be listen to.

To help you the best we need information and lets start with these.

1. How much money are you willing and able to spend? $$$

2. What will be the main use of this computer?

I also will not do your shopping for you but me and other are happy to give guidance.

Look at TVeblen and my system specs.
It took a lot of research and homework on our part to come with what we wanted.
Making sure everything would work together.

I personally took more time choosing the motherboard than any other single part.
That how important a motherboard is.
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13 Nov 2014   #4
Digerati

Windows 7 Profession 64-bit
 
 

Quote:
lot of my friends said i have bad motherboard. is it true?
That is a very good motherboard - assuming it is working properly. Due note that "upgrading" a motherboard is the same as getting a new computer in terms of OEM software licensing terms. This means if your current Windows license is an OEM/System Builders license, and/or came pre-installed on a factory built computer - that is, NOT a full "boxed Retail" license you purchased separately at a store, you will need to purchase a new Windows license with this new motherboard, or go Linux, to be legal.

Quote:
Quote:
i though motherboard is not too important.
I have no idea how one would come up with such a thought.

Your motherboard is the controlling factor of just about everything in the computer.
Who ever is putting thoughts like this in your mind should not be listen to.
Well, I don't agree so I do hope you bother to hear me out.

Now granted, we don't know the full context here and I am not saying to get a $50 generic motherboard. But there is no need to buy a $200 or $300 motherboard either. That said, the fact of the matter is there is no reason to suspect the $50 board is less capable of supporting the CPU, RAM, drive I/O or graphics than the $200 board - even at the same bus speeds - which is where it counts!!!!

If my budget is limited, I have no problems spending most of my budget on RAM, CPU and graphics (and a good PSU to power them) and putting them on a $100 motherboard from Gigabyte or ASUS (my preferred brands - though there are many others). I don't NEED the extra features a more expensive board offers as long as the budget board supports the RAM speeds and RAM amounts I want, the CPU I want to use, USB 3.0 and SATAIII. Those are the things that matter most and are readily available on even entry level motherboards. You just don't get as many expansion slots, or maybe a less than ideal integrated sound, or graphics, or support for 4 internal SATA drives instead of 6 or 10. The less expensive board will likely have a little less sophisticated power regulation circuits, but with leaky caps a thing of the past, even that is less important today - assuming a decent power supply is used, and you have properly setup case cooling.

So the motherboard is certainly important - but really ONLY for the basic functions every motherboard must provide. And even budget boards do that well - especially if fed good clean, stable power from a quality, 80 PLUS certified power supply - also a must with any computer.

So the bottom line, kelapa is right. As long as the board you want supports the CPU and RAM you want at the bus speeds you want, the choice of boards really is not too important.
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13 Nov 2014   #5
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Itaregid I have no idea what you are disagreeing with.

Whether it's a $100.00 board or a $500.00 board
Choose the best you can for your needs and desires in the price range that suites your pocket book.

If the motherboard one has suites their needs and desires keep using it.
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13 Nov 2014   #6
Digerati

Windows 7 Profession 64-bit
 
 

Quote:
Itaregid I have no idea what you are disagreeing with.
Oh? kelapa's "friends" are telling him to replace his board. He thought the motherboard is not too important.

You said not true and don't listen to anyone who says otherwise.

I disagreed, and still disagree with that, and I explained in detail why.

Again, yes the motherboard is critical. But the choice of CPU, RAM, graphics, and PSU are more important than the choice of motherboard (other than ensuring the chipset and CPU socket supports the CPU of choice).
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Choose the best you can for your needs and desires in the price range that suites your pocket book.
I agree 100% here. I am just saying if you need to trim the budget, I would do it here before downgrading my RAM, graphics, CPU or the PSU.
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13 Nov 2014   #7
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Your post.

Quote:
Again, yes the motherboard is critical. But the choice of CPU, RAM, graphics, and PSU are more important than the choice of motherboard (other than ensuring the chipset and CPU socket supports the CPU of choice)
Of course all those things are important. Who said they were not?
They all must work together and they also must work with something they all have in common. The motherboard.

Did you not see my post where I requested to know how much money was available and what the system was going to be use for.
Knowing that information will help.

Today you seam to want to argue. This is the Seven Forum not a tweeter account.
We are here to help the member who requested the help not argue with each other.
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13 Nov 2014   #8
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

@ kelapa

If you can answer these two question it will help us help you.


1. How much money are you willing and able to spend? $$$

2. What will be the main use of this computer?
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13 Nov 2014   #9
Digerati

Windows 7 Profession 64-bit
 
 

Quote:
Today you seam to want to argue.
Nope. It is just you taking anything that is not 100% in line with you as "personal". It is you coming back with comments like,
Quote:
Who said they were not?
Today you seam to want to argue.
You are putting word in my post along with many others post by others.
None of that is true.
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13 Nov 2014   #10
stormy13
Microsoft MVP

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

The reason your friends say you have a "bad" motherboard is due to the CPU you have. You have the "K" version, which is unlocked and overclockable and you have it installed on a motherboard with zero overclocking ablility.

Now as to whether you want to overclock or not, if you do then you will need to get a new motherboard. If you don't want to overclock then there is nothing wrong with the one you have now.
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