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Windows 7: Preparing SDD for HDD migration via cloning

20 Nov 2014   #61
ignatzatsonic

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sgrech View Post

A short while ago I ask whether I could / should swap the SSD with teh HDD and then boot from the windows recovery disk I made yesterday and then restore the disk image from my external drive to the SSD? Does that sound like a good plan?
You say "Windows recovery disk". Not sure what that means or how it was made.

If it is a bootable disk, what choices does it give you when you boot from it?

You say "disk image". Disk image of what partition or partitions? Disk image made with what application? Windows built-in imaging? Acronis?

I think you've got a 256 GB SSD, which would have maybe 238 GB usable. Is that big enough to hold the partitions contained in your "disk image"?

At some point, you have to consider the time involved in trouble-shooting and compare that to a clean install. Not to mention your will to live.


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21 Nov 2014   #62
sgrech

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sgrech View Post

A short while ago I ask whether I could / should swap the SSD with teh HDD and then boot from the windows recovery disk I made yesterday and then restore the disk image from my external drive to the SSD? Does that sound like a good plan?
You say "Windows recovery disk". Not sure what that means or how it was made.

If it is a bootable disk, what choices does it give you when you boot from it?

You say "disk image". Disk image of what partition or partitions? Disk image made with what application? Windows built-in imaging? Acronis?
I think you've got a 256 GB SSD, which would have maybe 238 GB usable. Is that big enough to hold the partitions contained in your "disk image"?

At some point, you have to consider the time involved in trouble-shooting and compare that to a clean install. Not to mention your will to live.
In answer to your questions:
Using windows 7 - create a system repair disk

I used to Acronis to create images of the 3 different partitions. Sizes are C: 223GB (already shrunk), HP_tools 4Gb and Recovery 20 GB so total is 247GB - The c: was defrag at the start of this project then I shrank the volume. However only 80 gb is used.

A number of options including Restore you computer using a system image that you created earlier. Also Use recovery tool, which leads into another menu which includes System image recovery and HP recovery. However if I swap the the SSD & HDD over these options will not work(?) as the recovery tool would need access to the recovery partition on HDD??


How can I reinstall? I don't have a windows disk, just the HP recovery which I would not be able to use as it is on the HDD?

if I use system image backup option from the windows repair disk it does not automatically find the image on USB attached external hard disk, however it does provide the option to locate the file yourself on the network - you are prompted to enter a pathname, could I enter the path where the partition images are located on my external hard drive?

Finally before I really do anything else I need to prove to myself whether this SSD is bust or whether this is a problem with the USB connector. My gut tells me that the SSD is a dud. If I swap the SSD with the HDD and then boot with the repair disk one of the options there is to launch a command prompt. This being the case I could run diskpart and then check whether the SSD is recognised properly???

Thanks again for your help.

Simon
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21 Nov 2014   #63
Kaktussoft

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Attach the SSD to a system using sata. Boot from ACRONIS disaster recovery disc and try to restore.
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21 Nov 2014   #64
Berton

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How can I reinstall? I don't have a windows disk, just the HP recovery which I would not be able to use as it is on the HDD?
A common issue with new computers during setup is the prompt to make the Factory Restore discs is missed or dismissed. All the OEM/Brand computers I've set up had a program to do it. If the original HDD is still usable one might look for that program and create the discs, with Win7 and later would need DVD-R or DVD+R discs but some newer ones can use a USB Thumb/Flash drive or DVD+R/DL discs. Booting to those discs should put the computer back to it as-shipped condition. I'll have to do it later today for a client.
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22 Nov 2014   #65
sgrech

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Ok so it appears that there might be a problem with the USB / SATA connector as i have replace the HDD with SDD and then at the command prompt and running diskpart I am able to see the SSD and it is online and has 238GB. I have also managed to reduced the size of my main partition to half of what it was previously (by moving some 'unmovable' file encountered by defrag!) so I have plenty of space now. What I still unsure is how i going to be able to restore my disk image which resides on a WD External Hard Drive to the installed SSD.
When i boot from the Window Repair disk that created previously and select restore your computer using a system image that you created previously it does not find an image. I am then offered the opportunity to from a network location so I type in the pathname of the image stored on my usb hard drive but it does not find it. It also provide an opportunity to load drivers for a device but cannot find the drivers for the USD Hard Drive.
I just need the simplest of getting my stored image of my USB HDD to the my shinny new installed SDD which I am now desperate to use
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22 Nov 2014   #66
Kaktussoft

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It's an acronis image isn't it?
you can see the internal SSD with diskpart and the external hardrive which contains the image.

So what's the problem?
-starting acronis? Just create a disaster recovery bootable CD within acrionis. https://kb.acronis.com/content/4828
-procedure to use acronis? .... i don't know. I simply clone or use macrium reflect/aomei backupper
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22 Nov 2014   #67
sgrech

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
It's an acronis image isn't it?
you can see the internal SSD with diskpart and the external hardrive which contains the image.

So what's the problem?
-starting acronis? Just create a disaster recovery bootable CD within acrionis. https://kb.acronis.com/content/4828
-procedure to use acronis? .... i don't know. I simply clone or use macrium reflect/aomei backupper

Yes and Yes

Procedure for Acronis that is what i am trying to work out right now!?

I am also in the process of make a HP restore disk which would (if required - hopefully not) allow me to install windowss 7 afresh on the SSD.
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22 Nov 2014   #68
Kaktussoft

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Just create a disaster recovery bootable CD within acronis, or download and burn it. https://kb.acronis.com/content/4828

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I am also in the process of make a HP restore disk which would (if required - hopefully not) allow me to install windowss 7 afresh on the SSD.
You can clone with partition wizard. Or clone with macrium reflect. or macrium reflect backup/restore. All software I can help you with.

But you can also do it with acronis!! But I have no exprerience with that tool.
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22 Nov 2014   #69
Kaktussoft

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Only real important partition is the current C partition. Restoring it to SSD couldn't be so difficult. Be sure it will be primary and ACTIVE. You can mark it ACTIVE later anyway. You can align it later.

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22 Nov 2014   #70
sgrech

Windows 7
 
 

I finally made it! It has taken me a total of around 10 hours, however i do believe that it worth the wait. The laptop boots up and is ready to use in about 33 seconds. A week ago it was taking almost 4 times as long as this. Then I cleared out loads of rubbish and defragged the drive ran disabled most programs that starting automatically when the system start up. This reduced the time to around 70 seconds, so that the current boot is about half of that.

I did as advised and created a rescue disk in Acronis and then I was able to boot from this and recover the save partition images to the newly installed SSD. This process took about 90 mins to complete.

I would like to thanks everyone who provided me with assistance. I have learnt quite a lot in the process.

I do have one final question. I have just checked in disk manager and have an unallocated space and I seem to be unable to expand the C:\ volume to take up the slack - it is greyed out

The allocated volume is over 100GB in size so I will definitely it going forward. I enlose a screen shot showing the current situation.

Thanks again.
Simon


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