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Windows 7: The Processor Dual

20 Dec 2014   #51
ignatzatsonic

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Inspiron Small Desktop | Dell

380 no rebate; you'll probably pay sales tax and shipping; it's got a 1 TB hard drive. Win 8.1 64 bit.


Gateway SX2885-UR10 Desktop PC - Intel Core i5-4440 3.10GHz, 4GB DDR3 Memory, 1TB HDD, DVDRW, Windows 8.1 64-bit - DT.GESAA.001

also a 1 TB hard drive and Win 8.1 64 bit; stronger processor than the Dell, but not a factor worth mentioning for your intended uses.

430 plus tax and shipping, less 50 rebate if you get it.


Amazon.com : Lenovo ThinkCentre M78 10BR000AUS Tower Desktop (3.70 GHz AMD APU A4-6300B Processor, 4GB DDR3, 500GB HDD, Windows 7 Professional) : Computers & Accessories

378 free shipping. Does Amazon charge sales tax in your state? They do in mine. Win 7 Professional.

Smaller hard drive than the other 2. I'd reject due to processor alone.





I don't understand your hard drive size concern. Both Dell and Gateway have 1 TB hard drives. The Lenovo has a 500 GB drive. If you are concerned about the Dell 1 TB drive, why aren't you concerned about the Gateway 1 TB drive?

Refresh my memory: when this thing lands on your doorstep, you are going to remove the hard drive? And then do what with that hard drive? It contains a Windows license that is worth something. Are you going to just throw that license away? The only place it can be used is on the new PC that lands on your doorstep. Maybe you are going to clone or image this new hard drive OS to an SSD? I've forgotten the details.


Personally, I'd probably go with the Dell at 380 as I am leery of not actually getting the rebate. If you want to take that risk and eventually get the rebate, the Dell and the Gateway are probably very close in price--in which case go with the Gateway due to the stronger processor--even though you won't make much use of the added power.






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20 Dec 2014   #52
leehop71

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by leehop71 View Post
Inspiron Small Desktop | Dell

380 no rebate; you'll probably pay sales tax and shipping; it's got a 1 TB hard drive. Win 8.1 64 bit.


Gateway SX2885-UR10 Desktop PC - Intel Core i5-4440 3.10GHz, 4GB DDR3 Memory, 1TB HDD, DVDRW, Windows 8.1 64-bit - DT.GESAA.001

also a 1 TB hard drive and Win 8.1 64 bit; stronger processor than the Dell, but not a factor worth mentioning for your intended uses.

430 plus tax and shipping, less 50 rebate if you get it.


Amazon.com : Lenovo ThinkCentre M78 10BR000AUS Tower Desktop (3.70 GHz AMD APU A4-6300B Processor, 4GB DDR3, 500GB HDD, Windows 7 Professional) : Computers & Accessories

378 free shipping. Does Amazon charge sales tax in your state? They do in mine. Win 7 Professional.

Smaller hard drive than the other 2. I'd reject due to processor alone.





I don't understand your hard drive size concern. Both Dell and Gateway have 1 TB hard drives. The Lenovo has a 500 GB drive. If you are concerned about the Dell 1 TB drive, why aren't you concerned about the Gateway 1 TB drive?

Refresh my memory: when this thing lands on your doorstep, you are going to remove the hard drive? And then do what with that hard drive? It contains a Windows license that is worth something. Are you going to just throw that license away? The only place it can be used is on the new PC that lands on your doorstep. Maybe you are going to clone or image this new hard drive OS to an SSD? I've forgotten the details.


Personally, I'd probably go with the Dell at 380 as I am leery of not actually getting the rebate. If you want to take that risk and eventually get the rebate, the Dell and the Gateway are probably very close in price--in which case go with the Gateway due to the stronger processor--even though you won't make much use of the added power.



I am going to take the SSD out of my HP. Take the HDD out of the new one and put the SSD into the new computer.
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20 Dec 2014   #53
ignatzatsonic

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I am going to take the SSD out of my HP. Take the HDD out of the new one and put the SSD into the new computer.
And then use imaging to transfer the installation from the new PC's hard drive to the SSD?

And then use the new PC's hard drive for some other purpose?

That will work.

But you may have problems if you try to clone the new hard drive's installation to the SSD because the SSD is much smaller than the new PC's hard drive. 1 TB versus 120 GB, if I recall correctly.
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20 Dec 2014   #54
leehop71

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by leehop71 View Post

I am going to take the SSD out of my HP. Take the HDD out of the new one and put the SSD into the new computer.
And then use imaging to transfer the installation from the new PC's hard drive to the SSD?

And then use the new PC's hard drive for some other purpose?

That will work.

But you may have problems if you try to clone the new hard drive's installation to the SSD because the SSD is much smaller than the new PC's hard drive. 1 TB versus 120 GB, if I recall correctly.
I can't just put the SSD into the new PC and boot it up?
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20 Dec 2014   #55
whs
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No way - life is not that easy.
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20 Dec 2014   #56
leehop71

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No way - life is not that easy.
Ouch. I will have to do an install of all my programs from the SSD to the HDD, and then clone the HDD to the SSD, then do the swap?
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20 Dec 2014   #57
leehop71

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

The only other option would be to put an I-3 processor into my HP, but that probably won't work either?
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20 Dec 2014   #58
ignatzatsonic

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I can't just put the SSD into the new PC and boot it up?
No, you can't put the i-3 into the HP. Different hardware completely. Round peg into square hole.

No. You're buying machine X.

You can't expect to install a hard drive installation from machine Y into machine X and expect to live happily ever after.

2 issues:

1: the hardware is significantly different.

2: the Windows license on the SSD came from somewhere. I don't know where that somewhere is, but it surely isn't from machine X that you don't even own yet. The installation on the SSD is tied to whatever machine it was in when you installed Windows to the SSD--unless it's a retail license, whcih is doubtful.

You could download a legit Windows ISO, burn it to a disk, and install to the SSD after you move it to the new PC, wiping out whatever is now on the SSD. Then activate with the Product Key that will be on a sticker on your new PC.

or

Use imaging to transfer the Windows installation on the new PC's hard drive to the SSD.

But you can't simply install the SSD into the new PC and start up. It may run temporarily, but would fail activation at some point because of the new hardware----which Microsoft will become aware of.
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20 Dec 2014   #59
whs
Microsoft MVP

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Nah, that won't work either. And if you change the mobo, you lose the OS. You have to image both systems and restore on the new disks. I would not recommend to try cloning.
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20 Dec 2014   #60
leehop71

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

So the only way cloning will work is like I did the SSD in my HP. Clone the existing HDD onto the SSD, then replace?
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