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Windows 7: Fans might not be working properly? Sudden motherboard cooling issues

16 Apr 2015   #1
Horrible4

Windows 7 64 bit
 
 
Fans might not be working properly? Sudden motherboard cooling issues

I've had this build for nearly a year now with no issues. However, as of late, my motherboard has been getting overly hot (using Piriform Speccy to measure). My computer case came with 4 fans but it effectively has 6; one in the rear of the case, two at the top of the case, and another in front of the hard drive mounts. It also has a plastic flap with 2 fans attached to it. When closed, it acts as extra cooling for the graphics card.


I need to stress that I've had no cooling issues until recently.

While playing any game my motherboard nearly peaks out at 70 degrees Celsius. From past experience, my fans USED to accelerate in rotations per minute during gameplay. I've observed that they no longer do this. In the mean time, I'm taking the side panel off my rig and blowing a fan into it . This brings temperatures down to 60 degrees Celsius. Other than the motherboard, everything else stays cool.

Is it a fan issue?
Are these bad temperatures to begin with?
How much space do you recommend for ventilation?
How would you recommend a fix in general?

Thanks!


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16 Apr 2015   #2
Windows Sniper

Windows 8.1
 
 

What specifically is getting warm?

Is it the CPU? if so there are a couple of quick fixes you may want to look at, such as:
- reapply the thermal paste
- upgrade the stock cooler (this is an assumption on you having stock)
- ensure that in the UEFI, the fan speeds are set to automatic and not fixed speeds.

If it's the GPU generating the heat, make sure that the airflow in your case is push the hot air out the top and back panels, whilst drawing in through the front (and bottom if possible).

You may also want to check that your fan speeds are set to automaticly speed up when the temp gets higher, this can be done again in the UEFI.

You may be able to push the fan speed on the graphics card by using AMD Control center or by downloading and using MSI Afterburner (Be carefull using this, as you will only want to change the fan speeds).

If all else fails, make sure your cables are tidied!
This isn't just a case of making the inside look pretty, tieing up the cables and putting them in the back panel / out of the way will improve airflow in the case and mean less heat is contained within the tower unit.



Also, welcome to Seveforums!
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16 Apr 2015   #3
Horrible4

Windows 7 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Windows Sniper View Post
What specifically is getting warm?

Is it the CPU? if so there are a couple of quick fixes you may want to look at, such as:
- reapply the thermal paste
- upgrade the stock cooler (this is an assumption on you having stock)
- ensure that in the UEFI, the fan speeds are set to automatic and not fixed speeds.

If it's the GPU generating the heat, make sure that the airflow in your case is push the hot air out the top and back panels, whilst drawing in through the front (and bottom if possible).

You may also want to check that your fan speeds are set to automaticly speed up when the temp gets higher, this can be done again in the UEFI.

You may be able to push the fan speed on the graphics card by using AMD Control center or by downloading and using MSI Afterburner (Be carefull using this, as you will only want to change the fan speeds).

If all else fails, make sure your cables are tidied!
This isn't just a case of making the inside look pretty, tieing up the cables and putting them in the back panel / out of the way will improve airflow in the case and mean less heat is contained within the tower unit.



Also, welcome to Seveforums!
Nope, just the motherboard is having high temps. The Graphics Card has windforce technology along with 5 fans blowing on it at any given time. I've never seen temps on it go over 60 degrees Celsius. The CPU is the one thing that stays the coolest in the case. It's abnormal for it to stay above 40 degrees Celsius.

The motherboard has always been generating the most heat out of everything, and average temperatures during gameplay peaked at no more than 64 degrees. If they make software that allows you to control the fan speed, I'll definitely look into and report back. Thank you for the welcome!
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16 Apr 2015   #4
Windows Sniper

Windows 8.1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Horrible4 View Post
Nope, just the motherboard is having high temps. The Graphics Card has windforce technology along with 5 fans blowing on it at any given time. I've never seen temps on it go over 60 degrees Celsius. The CPU is the one thing that stays the coolest in the case. It's abnormal for it to stay above 40 degrees Celsius.

The motherboard has always been generating the most heat out of everything, and average temperatures during gameplay peaked at no more than 64 degrees. If they make software that allows you to control the fan speed, I'll definitely look into and report back. Thank you for the welcome!
Sounds like your motherboard has a problem with the thermal detection on it if your GPU and CPU are within decent ranges, or the northbridge is getting abnormally hot?

Get a thermometer(if you can) and place it inside whilst your benchmarking to see what the actual internal temps are. Also can you post a screenshot of speccy?
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16 Apr 2015   #5
Horrible4

Windows 7 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Windows Sniper View Post

Sounds like your motherboard has a problem with the thermal detection on it if your GPU and CPU are within decent ranges, or the northbridge is getting abnormally hot?

Get a thermometer(if you can) and place it inside whilst your benchmarking to see what the actual internal temps are. Also can you post a screenshot of speccy?
This is a screenshot of the temps while idle.



Screenshot of the temps in-game.

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16 Apr 2015   #6
Windows Sniper

Windows 8.1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Horrible4 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Windows Sniper View Post

Sounds like your motherboard has a problem with the thermal detection on it if your GPU and CPU are within decent ranges, or the northbridge is getting abnormally hot?

Get a thermometer(if you can) and place it inside whilst your benchmarking to see what the actual internal temps are. Also can you post a screenshot of speccy?
This is a screenshot of the temps while idle.



Screenshot of the temps in-game.

Ok I have major issues with what you're showing here!

Firstly, that temp for the Motherboard is based from CPU #1 and not from the actual motherboard monitor. The fact that it's going that high indicates that the CPU is underload.

Can you change to using HWiNFO64 (Basically the same thing but slightly more in depth. And a good comparison).

It also appears as though your BIOS defaults are incorrect, since it's set your RAM speed to 666MHz..
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16 Apr 2015   #7
Horrible4

Windows 7 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Windows Sniper View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Horrible4 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Windows Sniper View Post

Sounds like your motherboard has a problem with the thermal detection on it if your GPU and CPU are within decent ranges, or the northbridge is getting abnormally hot?

Get a thermometer(if you can) and place it inside whilst your benchmarking to see what the actual internal temps are. Also can you post a screenshot of speccy?
This is a screenshot of the temps while idle.



Screenshot of the temps in-game.

Ok I have major issues with what you're showing here!

Firstly, that temp for the Motherboard is based from CPU #1 and not from the actual motherboard monitor. The fact that it's going that high indicates that the CPU is underload.

Can you change to using HWiNFO64 (Basically the same thing but slightly more in depth. And a good comparison).

It also appears as though your BIOS defaults are incorrect, since it's set your RAM speed to 666MHz..
So I can see why you prefer this, lol.

Idle screenshot



In-game screenshot



Obviously this points out that the motherboard is NOT what's generating heat. x.x
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16 Apr 2015   #8
Windows Sniper

Windows 8.1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Horrible4 View Post

So I can see why you prefer this, lol.

Idle screenshot



In-game screenshot



Obviously this points out that the motherboard is NOT what's generating heat. x.x
Yeah thats why i asked you to use different software, it looks like speccy can't read your BIOS setup correctly.

Is there anything you're worried about? If not you can mark the thread as solved in the top right
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16 Apr 2015   #9
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Lets get back to basics.

1. Any time a fan isn't working properly you are going to have problems.
That problem needs fixed as fast as possible.

2. If you have to put a fan blowing into the case with the side panel off you have a air flow problem with your case.

Could you post a picture of your case with the side panel off?

Could you also put what case you are using in your My System Specs?

When was the last time you did a complete cleaning of the inside of your case?

Do all your intake fans have filters?

Your motherboard temps at 68C is way to hot. I prefer to use Speccy reading because here lately those that use HWMonitor are having problems getting correct accurate readings.
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16 Apr 2015   #10
Horrible4

Windows 7 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Windows Sniper View Post

Yeah thats why i asked you to use different software, it looks like speccy can't read your BIOS setup correctly.

Is there anything you're worried about? If not you can mark the thread as solved in the top right
Ummm, other than if you think the CPU underload temperature is a problem?

Quote:
Could you post a picture of your case with the side panel off?
To the right is just hard drive and CD drive mounts



Quote:
Could you also put what case you are using in your My System Specs?
This is a tricky one, in ordering the parts for my build, the company got in contact with me saying they were out of stock of the case I ordered. So they sent me a substitute (because I had already payed) that had better cooling and more venting. So I don't have the name of the case on file.

Quote:
When was the last time you did a complete cleaning of the inside of your case?
I dusted it out about 4 weeks ago, and went around the entire case about 2 months ago.
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