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Windows 7: Which SSDs is the better, an External SSD or internal SSD?

28 Apr 2015   #11
Hadramawt

Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
I use external SSDs on an eSata port. But my USB3 is slower. That depends on the USB3 implementation in your mobo - mine is not so good (Dell XPS 8300). Internal would obviously be the fastest.
My 6 systems on the external SSD (Mushkin 240GB) are all virtual systems running under VMware Player. I notice very little performance degradation. My Windows 8.1 boots in 25 seconds and the Linux systems are faster.

Thank you so much indeed.
I am sorry to say that I still don't get on what you have said about USB external HDs which can be connected directly to a USB port of a PC without needing to be inserted into an enclosure which will be connected to a USB port of a PC via SUB wire.
I don't think there is an eSata port on a PC, like the USB ports. So, why you say you use external SSDs on an eSata port. But your USB3 is slower. That depends on the USB3 implementation in your mobo - mine is not so good (Dell XPS 8300). Internal would obviously be the fastest.

I would like you to kindly let me know why I will need to have an external drive in an enclosure which will be connected to a USB port of a PC via USB wire If my trying to gear up a Windows To go install.

Why will I need to have an external drive in an enclosure? Enclosure just converts a HD based on SATA port into USB port, which can be connected then to any USB port. If I have a HD based on USB3 port, then no need to have enclosure. I have a lot of USB3 External HDDs which can be connected directly to a USB port of a PC without needing to insert them in an enclosure.?

Are there two kinds of external hard disks, one of them must be inserted in an enclosure which will be connected to a USB port of a PC via USB wire, and the other one can be connected directly to a USB port of a PC via USB wire?

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The SSD prices you quoted are very high. In the US you can get a 120GB SSD for less than $50. But in Yemen that might be different.

Regarding SSD makes - I own 10 SSDs from 5 different companies. They are all good but my favorites are the Mushkins. They are reasonably priced and very fast. I always buy special offers at low prices. Only my first 60GB OCZ was expensive - $265 in 2008.
In Yemen, there are only Kingston SSDs, with that high price which is 500GB with $350. It is also not internal it is just external with enclosure, and USB wire.


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28 Apr 2015   #12
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Yes there are Esata ports, they are on your motherboard if it comes with them, my Sabertooth has 2 Esata ports.


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28 Apr 2015   #13
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Internal or external - those are the same SSDs. You can attach to the USB with an enclosure or a USB wire. They perform the same function.

Not all systems have eSata - in fact that is pretty rare. But you can always add it with a PCI-e card. And for laptops they look like this - that is if you have an Express Card slot.

Kingston SSDs are good. In fact they were the first in the industry to produce SSDs.
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28 Apr 2015   #14
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

A ssd is a ssd. They all have the same connections methods.
You choose whether to install it external using cables or a enclosure with cables. You can install it using cables internally to the motherboard.

Same ssd can be used either way or all the ways. It's your choice.

I use ssd in a external enclosure, hot swap bay and internal. It just depends how I want to use the ssd. It's the same ssd.
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28 Apr 2015   #15
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Hadramawt View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
I use external SSDs on an eSata port. But my USB3 is slower. That depends on the USB3 implementation in your mobo - mine is not so good (Dell XPS 8300). Internal would obviously be the fastest.
My 6 systems on the external SSD (Mushkin 240GB) are all virtual systems running under VMware Player. I notice very little performance degradation. My Windows 8.1 boots in 25 seconds and the Linux systems are faster.

Thank you so much indeed.
I am sorry to say that I still don't get on what you have said about USB external HDs which can be connected directly to a USB port of a PC without needing to be inserted into an enclosure which will be connected to a USB port of a PC via SUB wire.
I don't think there is an eSata port on a PC, like the USB ports. So, why you say you use external SSDs on an eSata port. But your USB3 is slower. That depends on the USB3 implementation in your mobo - mine is not so good (Dell XPS 8300). Internal would obviously be the fastest.

I would like you to kindly let me know why I will need to have an external drive in an enclosure which will be connected to a USB port of a PC via USB wire If my trying to gear up a Windows To go install.

Why will I need to have an external drive in an enclosure? Enclosure just converts a HD based on SATA port into USB port, which can be connected then to any USB port. If I have a HD based on USB3 port, then no need to have enclosure. I have a lot of USB3 External HDDs which can be connected directly to a USB port of a PC without needing to insert them in an enclosure.?

Are there two kinds of external hard disks, one of them must be inserted in an enclosure which will be connected to a USB port of a PC via USB wire, and the other one can be connected directly to a USB port of a PC via USB wire?

Quote:
The SSD prices you quoted are very high. In the US you can get a 120GB SSD for less than $50. But in Yemen that might be different.

Regarding SSD makes - I own 10 SSDs from 5 different companies. They are all good but my favorites are the Mushkins. They are reasonably priced and very fast. I always buy special offers at low prices. Only my first 60GB OCZ was expensive - $265 in 2008.
In Yemen, there are only Kingston SSDs, with that high price which is 500GB with $350. It is also not internal it is just external with enclosure, and USB wire.
With a computer and a debit card, you should be able to order just about any ssd you want.
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29 Apr 2015   #16
mike009

w7 ultimate 64-bit sp1
 
 

Windows To Go (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_To_Go) is mainly for corporations, no real benefit for Home/small office users. It gives you ability to connect a USB storage device to "*any" computer and in 5~10 minutes be able to work from it as if you were working on your corporate device (*any - not all computers will work you may see few "oops, something went wrong" messages).

If you not planning to move the hdd/ssd from your room/office and not worried you might spill some coffee or damage it in some way no enclosure is required.
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29 Apr 2015   #17
Hadramawt

Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AddRAM View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Hadramawt View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
I use external SSDs on an eSata port. But my USB3 is slower. That depends on the USB3 implementation in your mobo - mine is not so good (Dell XPS 8300). Internal would obviously be the fastest.
My 6 systems on the external SSD (Mushkin 240GB) are all virtual systems running under VMware Player. I notice very little performance degradation. My Windows 8.1 boots in 25 seconds and the Linux systems are faster.

Thank you so much indeed.
I am sorry to say that I still don't get on what you have said about USB external HDs which can be connected directly to a USB port of a PC without needing to be inserted into an enclosure which will be connected to a USB port of a PC via SUB wire.
I don't think there is an eSata port on a PC, like the USB ports. So, why you say you use external SSDs on an eSata port. But your USB3 is slower. That depends on the USB3 implementation in your mobo - mine is not so good (Dell XPS 8300). Internal would obviously be the fastest.

I would like you to kindly let me know why I will need to have an external drive in an enclosure which will be connected to a USB port of a PC via USB wire If my trying to gear up a Windows To go install.

Why will I need to have an external drive in an enclosure? Enclosure just converts a HD based on SATA port into USB port, which can be connected then to any USB port. If I have a HD based on USB3 port, then no need to have enclosure. I have a lot of USB3 External HDDs which can be connected directly to a USB port of a PC without needing to insert them in an enclosure.?

Are there two kinds of external hard disks, one of them must be inserted in an enclosure which will be connected to a USB port of a PC via USB wire, and the other one can be connected directly to a USB port of a PC via USB wire?

Quote:
The SSD prices you quoted are very high. In the US you can get a 120GB SSD for less than $50. But in Yemen that might be different.

Regarding SSD makes - I own 10 SSDs from 5 different companies. They are all good but my favorites are the Mushkins. They are reasonably priced and very fast. I always buy special offers at low prices. Only my first 60GB OCZ was expensive - $265 in 2008.
In Yemen, there are only Kingston SSDs, with that high price which is 500GB with $350. It is also not internal it is just external with enclosure, and USB wire.
With a computer and a debit card, you should be able to order just about any ssd you want.
Thank you so much,
Although it is out of topic, yes, that is absolutely right all over the world, except in Yemen, for clear reasons.
I heard that usually items are stolen in the Yemeni customs department, and then will not be arrived by the buyer, in particular if they are priced with more than a hundred dollars.

Even if I were stupid, I'd order/purchased items, for instance at eBay.com, How would I be able to be one hundred percent sure that items are really stolen in Yemeni customs department, and the persons in the US really sent my items to Yemen. However, once my items got arrived in Yemen, then the items got stolen in the Yemeni customs department. Also, what should I do if my items hadn't been received by me.
No thing in Yemen is going as you think.
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29 Apr 2015   #18
Hadramawt

Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Internal or external - those are the same SSDs. You can attach to the USB with an enclosure or a USB wire. They perform the same function.

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Thank you all of you very much indeed,
If I can attach a HD(HDD/SSD) to the USB with an enclosure or a USB wire. They perform the same function. Then, what benefit from an enclosure?
I am a little bit confused with a HD which can be inserted to an enclosure which then can be connected to a USB port , and HDs can be directly connected to a USB port.



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Not all systems have eSata - in fact that is pretty rare. But you can always add it with a PCI-e card. And for laptops they look like this - that is if you have an Express Card slot.
I don't know if it is quite good to have eSata port or not. So, if quite good, I can purchase 'esata pci-e card' for my laptop 'HP Pavilion dv6', and I will install it.
However, where can it be installed on my motherboard, since I don't see any free ports in my right or left side.






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Kingston SSDs are good. In fact they were the first in the industry to produce SSDs
I was told these disadvantages of Kingston SSD.

Everyone has their favorite brand. Intel, Samsung and Crucial are generally better regarded than Sandisk and Kingston.
The Kingston SSD you mention is capable of being an external drive because it comes with a USB/SATA adapter. The purpose of the adapter is to allow you to clone your current drive to the SSD to perform an easy upgrade. This is for people with laptops that only have one drive bay. However, I would strongly recommend avoiding this particular drive because Kingston switched out for cheaper parts after the initial reviews and specifications were done. The newer shipments no longer perform as advertised, which was a very dishonest move, IMHO.
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29 Apr 2015   #19
mike009

w7 ultimate 64-bit sp1
 
 

Quote:
If I can attach a HD(HDD/SSD) to the USB with an enclosure or a USB wire. They perform the same function. Then, what benefit from an enclosure?
I am a little bit confused with a HD which can be inserted to an enclosure which then can be connected to a USB port , and HDs can be directly connected to a USB port.
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If you not planning to move the hdd/ssd from your room/office and not worried you might spill some coffee or damage it in some way no enclosure is required.
It's to protect the HDD/SSD
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29 Apr 2015   #20
Hadramawt

Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit
 
 

Could anyone please re-read my final post since I have made some changes since mike009 replied to that post of mine.
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