Which SSDs is the better, an External SSD or internal SSD?

Hadramawt said:

Also, Not me who said that 'The 30GB SSD is large enough to accommodate Windows 8 or any Linux distro with room to spare'. However, He is Wsh in his/her tutorial I have posted its link in the very first post of mine.

Windows 8 will fit on 30 GB. Windows alone takes maybe 20 GB.

But if you have a significant number of applications installed and keep Window updated, you will run out of space quickly.

My original installation grew to above 30 GB within a year. If you want to stay within 30 GB, you would have to be very careful about what you install.

I have used only 38 GB for Windows after 5 years on Windows 7, with about 55 applications.

whs said:

eSata ports are on the PC and you connect the disk with an eSata enclosure. The cable looks like this:



You use bare bone disks in the enclosure because there are very few (expensive) external disks in a housing that come with an eSata connector. But you have to have an eSata port on your PC in the first place.

Thank you so much indeed, although I am still a little bit confused with the cables used to connect internal disks as external disks to a USB port of PC, and to connect external disks as internal disk to eSata port of PC. I think the faulty is not from my side. However, you only show me the images without getting a change to get one, and try it. Like telling a person how to drive a car, and he never ever sat in one. So, be a little bit patient with me.


So, could you please take some of your precious time out and go through my points below, and address these points for mine, and don't ignore them?

1- what is mentioned in my scree shot below is correct?




2- the usb3_external_sata_cable in the first image above is a different two-sided cable(two different connectors). One connector is eSata to be connected to the eSata of a PC, and the other one is USB to be connected to USB 3.0 interface port of a disk. However, the other Coboc Model SC-SATA3 below is a a same two-sided cable(two same connectors), both sides look eSata connectors.


3- there is a difference in eSata connector side in both two-sided cables. The eSata connector of usb3_external_sata_cable looks different from the eSata connector of the SC-SATA3?



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You use bare bone disks in the enclosure because there are very few (expensive) external disks in a housing that come with an eSata connector. But you have to have an eSata port on your PC in the first place.

You mean with 'bare bone disks' with ALL of those disks are installed internally(locally) into an eSata interface port inside a laptop? So, they don't have USB interface port, in order to let them be connected externally to a USB interface port of PC, then they needs to be inserted to a enclosure, from which we can get output of USB interface port which then can be connected to USB port of PC.

5- I really don't see any eSata port on the case of my laptop, such as USB3, USB2, and other connectors, such VGA, and HDMI, and so on.
So, I don't know if my existing internal Toshiba HDD drive is connected to an eSata interface port of my laptop or not. Yes. I was told that my HP Pavilion dv6-6093ex Entertainment Notebook PC support does NOT have eSATA/USB combination port.. Moreover, What I know is that an eSata port can be a port inside a PC, and not shown in the left/right side of the case of a PC like USB3/2. As a result, if I want to convert my existing internal Toshiba HDD drive as an external HDD to be connected to a USB 3.0/2.0 port, how could I do as long as my existing internal Toshiba HDD drive has only eSata interface port, or otherwise it cannot be installed inside my laptop via eSata port. how can I use my local internal HDD as an external Hard disk drive. I think all internal hard disks have only an eSata interface port, and not a USB 3.0 interface port. So, Which kind of cable would I need to attach my HDD to a USB3 port?

6- I have never ever saw a local(internal) HDD for a laptop, even the Internal Toshiba HDD for my laptop, I didn't see it. ALL disks I saw external Western Digital Hard Disk Drives(Portable Hard Drive), and all of them have USB Interface port.

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I think you are still mixing things up. Any disk can be used as an external disk or internal disk - if the form factor fits (e.g. you cannot put a 3.5" disk into a laptop but into a desktop).

I don't know if such (External Portable) external Western Digital Hard Disk Drives(Portable Hard Drive) whose screen shots are above can be fitted into inside my laptop 2.5 inch hard drive bay or not. There is no dimensions of that external Western Digital Hard Disk Drives(Portable Hard Drive). If they could be fitted to it, then which kind of cable would I need to attach my HDD to a USB3 port?

Lady Fitzgerald said:

For the record, there is no such thing as a Samsung Pro EVO. It's Samsung Pros and Samsung EVOs, two separate SSDs. Of the two, the Pros are better.

Thanks a lot,
Yes, I agree there is typo. The Samsung Pro, Evo are completely different model, and pro is the latest one.

However, could you please re-read my post posted to ignatzatsonic lately?

see comments in bold

Hadramawt said:

Firstly: I found that $348 is the price of
Kingston Digital SV300S3N7A/480G 480GB SSDNow V300 SATA 3 2.5-in Solid State. And the shipping fee is about $45.88 Standard Int'l Shipping. So, the total price is about [B]$393.88, which is much higher than the price of the same Kingston SSD in Yemeni merchant's store, which is with $350. This is silly, where did the Yemeni merchant purchase the Kingston SSD, so it is price is lower than eBay.com seller?


How could I or anyone else possibly know where a Yemeni merchant purchased a Kingston SSD? He can price it any way he wants. Maybe he has a friend in Yemeni customs who steals for him?

Secondly: Also, even I found no striking difference in the price of Samsung 850 Pro 512GB 2.5-Inch SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-7KE512BW) Hard Drive ($359) No shipping to Yemen, and the price of Kingston Digital SV300S3N7A/480G 480GB SSDNow V300 SATA 3 2.5-in Solid State($348) + shipping fee $48.

Thus, no matter what SSD brand I purchase as the price of 'Samsung SSD' is not higher than Kingston. Why do all of you claim to say that Samsung 850 Pro is much better than Kingston........

The Samsung is a newer generation. It would probably be faster, but you might not notice the speed difference in actual use.

Who says the Samsung 850 is "much better"? Faster in benchmarks, yes.

The speed differences between the Samsung and the Kingston are VERY small compared to the differences between any SSD and any HDD.

More reliable? Who knows?

If benchmark speed is your only criterion, you'd be a fool to buy the Kingston.

If you have other criteria (reliability, price, customer service, possibility of being stolen in customs, etc), maybe you would not be a fool to buy the Kingston.


Fourthly: If you see the links the secondly above, you'll see that there is no mention of internal in all 'Kingston Digital SV300S3N7A/480G 480GB SSDNow V300 SATA 3 2.5-in Solid State'. However, there is a mention of internal in the 'Samsung 850 Pro 512GB 2.5-Inch SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-7KE512BW) Hard Drive'. So, can both of them be installed internally inside a laptop.????

Yes. They are both 2.5 inch internal drives.

Finally: I found in this link $199.99 SAMSUNG 500GB SSD (+Bonus 128GB Flash Drive) & More Weekend Deals!‏ a great deal $199.99 SAMSUNG 850 Evo 500GB SSD (+Bonus 128GB Flash Drive). I wish that I could got that deal? Do think that it is reality?

Yes, it is real and from a reliable dealer. Prices for 500 GB SSDs in the USA are trending lower as usual. That is 40 cents per GB. I've seen prices below 35 cents per GB.

[QUOTE=ignatzatsonic;3058577]see comments in bold

Hadramawt said:

Firstly: I found that $348 is the price of
Kingston Digital SV300S3N7A/480G 480GB SSDNow V300 SATA 3 2.5-in Solid State. And the shipping fee is about $45.88 Standard Int'l Shipping. So, the total price is about [B]$393.88, which is much higher than the price of the same Kingston SSD in Yemeni merchant's store, which is with $350. This is silly, where did the Yemeni merchant purchase the Kingston SSD, so it is price is lower than eBay.com seller?


How could I or anyone else possibly know where a Yemeni merchant purchased a Kingston SSD? He can price it any way he wants. Maybe he has a friend in Yemeni customs who steals for him?

Thanks a lot,
Then, you also got surprised by the price.

I don't know what you mean with 'benchmark speed'?

Thirdly: Why are all Kingston SSDs sized with '60GB', 120GB, 240GB, 480GB, 960GB.
However, all Samsung 850 Pro SSDs sized with, 64GB, 128GB, 256GB, 512GB, 1024GB(1TB)?

Yes, it is real and from a reliable dealer. Prices for 500 GB SSDs in the USA are trending lower as usual. That is 40 cents per GB. I've seen prices below 35 cents per GB.

Would you believe me if I say that I just chatted them on their online live chat about that deal. However, they told that Newegg doesn't ship to out the US at all.
That is great deal which I can save about $200 in addition to get a 128GB Flash Drive for free?

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Hadramawt said:

Then, you also got surprised by the price.

I'm surprised by Yemeni SSD prices in general, but that's all. Given that they are high, I'm not further surprised by the prices for any particular hard drive from any specific dealer.

I don't know what you mean with 'benchmark speed'?

Google for what that means. Below are some example benchmarks of my own SSDs. The Crucial is faster, but I can't tell the difference between it and the Intel in everyday usage.



That is great deal which I can save about $200 in addition to get a 128GB Flash Drive for free?

You could if you lived in the USA. Prices are higher in Europe and much higher in Yemen.

Benchmarks in this order: Crucial MX100 128 GB SSD followed by Intel 320 series 80 GB SSD. The Intel is about 4 years old. The Crucial is new.

It is the access time that makes most of the difference between SSDs and HDDs.