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    Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
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    I downloaded this utility in order to perform burst rate tests in all my drivers.
    Opti Drive Control website

    I used a double layer Sony DVD with a Depeche Mode the videos release.

    Burst rate: The burst rate is the highest possible speed at which data can be transferred to the drive.
    This speed should be higher than the maximum rated speed of the drive.

    Differences between these Burst rate values make the difference between installing windows 7 on 15 mins or more like even 40 mins for me!

    Asus


    Lite On


    Pioneer


    Samsung


    Sony


    Of course all these drivers are not clones (same features), the pioneer one for example is a blur-ray burner.

    But the test works for my interests, and the winner is??? the oldest one, the lite on.

    1) Lite On. The winner but the most louder. 53.7MB

    2) Sony. Second place not as louder as the Lite on and excelent burst values. 49.2MB but its failing, the one that originated this thread.

    3) Asus. Only 5MB less behind the Sony, 44.4MB nice right? but the bloody thing can't burn double layer Sony dvd's.

    4) Samsung. 29.4MB, the lite on is 53.7Mb see my point why i don't like Samsung?, slow slow slow!. That's makes the difference between installing windows 7 on 15 and 40 minutes.

    5) Pioneer. This came on the last place 24.2MB but again this is the only one that is also a blu-ray burner. I use it specifically to read and write blu-rays only.
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    Yep well it depends on what one calls installing I suppose - I mean getting the OS loaded and then the torrent of updates that invariably follow - they are the time consumers - so the first instance yes probably less than 20 mins with my Samsung (I have used most of the other brands too) and you have to remember other factors as well such as CPU speeds what hardware you have installed and network connections it does take time to load drivers for them too.

    I think maybe the USB maybe the way to go if the optical is taking too long and I can pick up 4GB sticks for around $5 and $7 for an 8GB - in actual fact I just bought a brilliant SanDisk one - 16GB for $11 that has a connection "plug" one end for the computer and one for the android devices I am now using on the other end.

    It is a pity the ISO we used to be able to get on Greg rockers tutorial has been taken away because it was always being updated with the latest updates shortening the entire install time.
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    The latest Windows 7 only has Service Pack 1 on it, you still have to install about 210 updates after installing Windows, I do not consider updates a part of the install process.

    With a properly functioning dvd rom and a proper install disc Windows takes 15 minutes from start to where you enter your name.

    A flash drive will be a bit quicker.

    I did not time it with the new build, I wasn`t concerned. I just start the install and walk away :)

    Once you click next you shouldn`t have to touch the machine until you see the screen to enter your name.
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    The latest Windows 7 only has Service Pack 1 on it, you still have to install about 210 updates after installing Windows, I do not consider updates a part of the install process.
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    Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
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    ICIT2LOL said:
    Yep well it depends on what one calls installing I suppose - I mean getting the OS loaded and then the torrent of updates that invariably follow - they are the time consumers - so the first instance yes probably less than 20 mins with my Samsung (I have used most of the other brands too) and you have to remember other factors as well such as CPU speeds what hardware you have installed and network connections it does take time to load drivers for them too.

    I think maybe the USB maybe the way to go if the optical is taking too long and I can pick up 4GB sticks for around $5 and $7 for an 8GB - in actual fact I just bought a brilliant SanDisk one - 16GB for $11 that has a connection "plug" one end for the computer and one for the android devices I am now using on the other end.

    It is a pity the ISO we used to be able to get on Greg rockers tutorial has been taken away because it was always being updated with the latest updates shortening the entire install time.
    First you said this:

    ICIT2LOL said:
    Mind you installing Windows over 40 mins is pretty ordinary and I am assuming you mean just the base system stuff not the updates etc .
    That's not ordinary, unless you are installing on a very very slow machine. Now the first instance takes you less than 20 minutes too? using a Samsung unit?

    If it takes you less than 20 minutes, then it takes me 12 minutes. Well it took me, RIP my Sony unit.

    Do you know the model and the burst rate of your Samsung unit? I really doubt your Samsung unit matches the Sony ones but i might be wrong....

    This link:

    CD Burners, DVD Burners - Newegg.com

    The first unit appearing is a Samsung one, i've already tested that model twice, it's a pretty slow unit (i've already posted my results above).
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    Well I don't know the burst rate for the Samsung and frankly it is of little interest to me - no offence intended. If I have a few minutes to spare hen I will look at it but again whatever it is it really doesn't matter tome because the Samsung does the job and very efficiently.

    All I know is that installing is a tedious affair and to be avoided whenever possible - my machines (6) all have different optical drives the tester has two generic brands as there is no identifying marks that I know of and they all install around the same time.
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    Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
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    Then i assume is slow too, but it's ok if you are satisfied with it (i don't have an issue with that) but definitely i pass from Samsung and personally i don't recommend it.

    Regarding Asus i would give a second try to the brand buying this if i could:

    DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM

    Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, LED LCD TV, Digital Cameras and more - Newegg.com

    But sadly not available in my country. Anyways i don't have too much hope on it burning double layer Sony dvd's either.

    I might buy an updated Lite On drive this week, perhaps its good.

    BTW that burst rate is what makes Windows 7 install faster (at least on my PC) i put the disc reboot and voila i could hear the burst speeds on my ex-Sony drive.

    Instead, when i use the Samsung, pretty much is quiet all the time, almost 0 noise and hence low transfering speeds.
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