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Windows 7: G.skill ram in new z97x build barfs up errors in memtest86+ v5.01

01 Jul 2015   #11
Boozad

W7 Pro x64 SP1 | W10 Pro IP x64 | W8.1 Pro x64 VM | Linux Mint VM
 
 

Best to do as mentioned previously and test each stick individually to rule out the DIMM slots as well.

If the output is like this then you have bad RAM so the stick(s) need replacing.

TestSlot 1Slot 2
RAM 1ErrorError
RAM 2GoodGood

If the output is like this then you should replace the motherboard, however you can leave that DIMM slot empty although it's not advised to use a system with a faulty motherboard.

TestSlot 1Slot 2
RAM 1ErrorGood
RAM 2ErrorGood



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01 Jul 2015   #12
Mellon Head

Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RyougaLolakie View Post
Ah okay! I'll use your suggestions but I have a few questions. Is it possible to use an opened cardboard box to stand on while working inside the pc whether its placed on the kitchen floor or carpet? As for tapping 1 or 2 on the water taps, does it have to be done by using a cup of water to tap it? Is there any other way to disapate esd on myself?

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Stand on the bare kitchen floor with no socks on. No cardboard, no carpet, nothing but linoleum or tile.

Touch the water faucet with your bare hand. That's ground, and you want to touch bare ground to dissipate the ESD. DO NOT touch the faucet wile handling a source of electricity, or while touching the plugged in computer.
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01 Jul 2015   #13
RyougaLolakie

Windows 8.1 (z97 build - main) Windows 7 Premium 64 bit (x58 build - backup)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Boozad View Post
Best to do as mentioned previously and test each stick individually to rule out the DIMM slots as well.

If the output is like this then you have bad RAM so the stick(s) need replacing.

TestSlot 1Slot 2
RAM 1ErrorError
RAM 2GoodGood

If the output is like this then you should replace the motherboard, however you can leave that DIMM slot empty although it's not advised to use a system with a faulty motherboard.

TestSlot 1Slot 2
RAM 1ErrorGood
RAM 2ErrorGood
Will do! I hope its just the faulty ramstick and I'll be sad if all ram sticks passed the first slot which it would be a motherboard slot due to bad slot.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Mellon Head View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RyougaLolakie View Post
Ah okay! I'll use your suggestions but I have a few questions. Is it possible to use an opened cardboard box to stand on while working inside the pc whether its placed on the kitchen floor or carpet? As for tapping 1 or 2 on the water taps, does it have to be done by using a cup of water to tap it? Is there any other way to disapate esd on myself?

Anti-static wristband and anti-static bag should be delivered by tomorrow.
Stand on the bare kitchen floor with no socks on. No cardboard, no carpet, nothing but linoleum or tile.

Touch the water faucet with your bare hand. That's ground, and you want to touch bare ground to dissipate the ESD. DO NOT touch the faucet wile handling a source of electricity, or while touching the plugged in computer.
Ah...alright, I'll work on the kitchen then. Good thing is that the kitchen wasn't that far away from my room, however the weight of a pc can be a bit heavy to carry. Also, the kitchen floor is tiled floor (might be ceramic-like?).

Good idea on tap the water faucet. Unfortunately, I've never done that before and I hope I don't make a mistake. If else, I'll look for a tutorial about disapating esd. I mean, it shouldn't be that hard, right?
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02 Jul 2015   #14
RyougaLolakie

Windows 8.1 (z97 build - main) Windows 7 Premium 64 bit (x58 build - backup)
 
 

Currently testing 1 ram at the time in the first slot. So far, no errors after the first pass. I'll let it run until it completed the 7 pass.

I just realized, when I took all 3 ram sticks, these sticks all labled as f3-12800cl10s-8gbxl. As far as I'm concerned, the "s" stands for single channel. Is that the reason why I get these errors because these sticks are made for single channel? I'll test the second stick afterwards.
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03 Jul 2015   #15
Boozad

W7 Pro x64 SP1 | W10 Pro IP x64 | W8.1 Pro x64 VM | Linux Mint VM
 
 

It needs to complete 8 passes.
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03 Jul 2015   #16
RyougaLolakie

Windows 8.1 (z97 build - main) Windows 7 Premium 64 bit (x58 build - backup)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Boozad View Post
It needs to complete 8 passes.
Oh, right. Whoops! My bad, Boozad.

I'll test the second stick when memtest completes 8 passes.
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03 Jul 2015   #17
carwiz

Windows 7 Pro-x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RyougaLolakie View Post
I just realized, when I took all 3 ram sticks, these sticks all labled as f3-12800cl10s-8gbxl. As far as I'm concerned, the "s" stands for single channel. Is that the reason why I get these errors because these sticks are made for single channel? I'll test the second stick afterwards.
Mmmmmmm. No. You have 8GB sticks. For some reason the OEM choose not to sell the 8GB modules in a "Dual Channel Kit". (8GB x2 = 16GB) The 8GB modules are sold Each or as a "Single Channel Kit". (8GB x1)

They sell a 8GB DCK but it is 4GB x2.
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03 Jul 2015   #18
RyougaLolakie

Windows 8.1 (z97 build - main) Windows 7 Premium 64 bit (x58 build - backup)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by carwiz View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RyougaLolakie View Post
I just realized, when I took all 3 ram sticks, these sticks all labled as f3-12800cl10s-8gbxl. As far as I'm concerned, the "s" stands for single channel. Is that the reason why I get these errors because these sticks are made for single channel? I'll test the second stick afterwards.
Mmmmmmm. No. You have 8GB sticks. For some reason the OEM choose not to sell the 8GB modules in a "Dual Channel Kit". (8GB x2 = 16GB) The 8GB modules are sold Each or as a "Single Channel Kit". (8GB x1)

They sell a 8GB DCK but it is 4GB x2.
Yeah the 8gb sticks are single channel kits. Likewise, if I add the same stick with the same model that is designed for single channel kit, will that cause memtest errors? I think I might've found the answer since g.skill reccomend it buying either 16gb (2x8gb) and 32gb (4x8gb) in kits, not individually.

As I'm testing, I've completed testing the first 2 sticks, no errors in 8 passes. Testing 3rd stick right now.
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04 Jul 2015   #19
carwiz

Windows 7 Pro-x64
 
 

What's more important than what G.Skill advises is what the motherboard manual says. A single module in a channel will not run in dual channel mode. If the other channel has two modules, it's capable of dual channel mode but that doesn't mean it will run in dual channel mode. The extra module could slow access to the entire memory package. Some motherboards (BIOS) allow it but assign the extra module to System Reserved Memory or run all the modules in single channel mode. Some just flat error-out or even won't boot. It's never been advisable to have an open slot in a channel but your manual should describe if and where the extra module should be placed.

I didn't catch that you had three modules before. Windows looks at all installed memory as a single block. The modules are NOT accessed sequentially so data could be spread over the beginning of the block as well as the end of the block. (Or anywhere in between.) Having part of the block running dual channel mode and part in single channel mode used to cause all sorts of problems but I'm not familiar with the newer hardware. That's where your MB manual is your best friend.
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04 Jul 2015   #20
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

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