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Windows 7: G.skill ram in new z97x build barfs up errors in memtest86+ v5.01

30 Jun 2015   #1
RyougaLolakie

Windows 8.1 (z97 build - main) Windows 7 Premium 64 bit (x58 build - backup)
 
 
G.skill ram in new z97x build barfs up errors in memtest86+ v5.01

Hello!

Right now, I'm starting to have some major ram issues when I'm currently using a z97 build, which my specs are included in my profile. What happen was I was having problem installing some programs. I google around and the forums and I thought it could be the ram. So, I popped in memtest86+ v5.01 and at 30 mins, it reported errors. I was right all along. How could this be happening? Right now, I'm retesting it I all 4 rams and it barfed up more than that, approximately 6912. Looking at it, these errors are spreading like cancer.

I'm about to use one ram stick at a time, but to be honest, I've never done this before since this is the first time I've ever had this problem. I heard some bad stories of ESD and frying ram and mobo while doing the procedure and I'm feeling nervous. Though I'd figure I need you guys to figure why this is happening other than the obvious faulty ram.

At bios, the ram was settled at xmp profile 1 at 1600mhz at 1.5v, while the other settings are at auto. Got any suggestions and precautions on how I doing this procedure? Thanks!


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30 Jun 2015   #2
carwiz

Windows 7 Pro-x64
 
 

Start here: RAM - Test with Memtest86+

Are all the modules the same make/model? I'm not sure what you mean by the last paragraph.
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30 Jun 2015   #3
Mellon Head

Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
 
 

Not knowing the exact model of RAM, so that I can get the specifications for it, I can't say a whole lot about your error problem...

I can, however, help with ESD.

Any time that you're working on the guts of your machine, you want to minimize the possibility that ESD will fry things. (It's easy to do) The best thing you can do for yourself is get an anti-static wrist strap. Even the cheap disposable ones will work fine. You can get one here:

ECWS61M-1 SCS | SCP301-ND | DigiKey

If you can't get a static strap, you can do the following:

1. Bring your PC into the kitchen and place it on a table or counter. Don't to this on a carpeted floor.
2. Wear cotton clothing, like jeans and a t-shirt
3. Take off your socks.
4. Touch the water taps for a second or two to dissipate static electricity in your body.
5. (This part is optional, but I do it) Plug your PC into the wall - but switch the power supply OFF
6. Open the case and do your thing. Handle parts only by their edges and don't touch pins or circuits.
7. Put the parts you take out (like the RAM Sticks) into an anti-static bag (one should have come with your motherboard, or a hard drive or the RAM packaging)
8. Put the case back together and test.

This won't completely eliminate ESD, but it will minimize the possibility of destroying components. The important thing is to not do the procedure where there is a possibility that fabrics can rub together, like socks on a rug.

Hth
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30 Jun 2015   #4
RyougaLolakie

Windows 8.1 (z97 build - main) Windows 7 Premium 64 bit (x58 build - backup)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Mellon Head View Post
Not knowing the exact model of RAM, so that I can get the specifications for it, I can't say a whole lot about your error problem...

I can, however, help with ESD.

Any time that you're working on the guts of your machine, you want to minimize the possibility that ESD will fry things. (It's easy to do) The best thing you can do for yourself is get an anti-static wrist strap. Even the cheap disposable ones will work fine. You can get one here:

ECWS61M-1 SCS | SCP301-ND | DigiKey

If you can't get a static strap, you can do the following:

1. Bring your PC into the kitchen and place it on a table or counter. Don't to this on a carpeted floor.
2. Wear cotton clothing, like jeans and a t-shirt
3. Take off your socks.
4. Touch the water taps for a second or two to dissipate static electricity in your body.
5. (This part is optional, but I do it) Plug your PC into the wall - but switch the power supply OFF
6. Open the case and do your thing. Handle parts only by their edges and don't touch pins or circuits.
7. Put the parts you take out (like the RAM Sticks) into an anti-static bag (one should have come with your motherboard, or a hard drive or the RAM packaging)
8. Put the case back together and test.

This won't completely eliminate ESD, but it will minimize the possibility of destroying components. The important thing is to not do the procedure where there is a possibility that fabrics can rub together, like socks on a rug.

Hth
Carwiz and melonhead: here's the model of the ram I have. According to CPU-z, all 4 8gb models are the same model which is f3-12800cl10-8gbxl. Here's the link: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL10Q-32GBXL - Newegg.com

Do you need more info of it or is that it? I'd appreciated.

Unfortunately, I don't have an anti-static bag nor anti static wrist band, but I'll order both of those right now.
Good suggestions! My room has a wooden desk I can work on but I dunno because my room floor is carpet. Would that work or not because of the friction of the carpet with my bare feet?
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30 Jun 2015   #5
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Set the memory back to default settings, don`t use XMP.

Test each stick one at a time, make sure it is fully inserted in the slot.
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30 Jun 2015   #6
RyougaLolakie

Windows 8.1 (z97 build - main) Windows 7 Premium 64 bit (x58 build - backup)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AddRAM View Post
Set the memory back to default settings, don`t use XMP.

Test each stick one at a time, make sure it is fully inserted in the slot.
I'm at the bios right now and I will disable the xmp setting. When I click the xmp, it says either auto or xmp 1.2 profile 1. Auto is "default" setting, correct? If so, should I retest memtest with "auto" setting on all ram sticks? Here's the ram config from my bios:

Load xmp setting: xmp 1.2 profile 1
dram recerence clock: auto
dram frequency: ddr3-1600 (1:6)
Dram performance mode: auto
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30 Jun 2015   #7
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Yes, leave it set to auto to run your tests.
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30 Jun 2015   #8
RyougaLolakie

Windows 8.1 (z97 build - main) Windows 7 Premium 64 bit (x58 build - backup)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AddRAM View Post
Yes, leave it set to auto to run your tests.
Gotcha! Now I'm retesting memtest on all 4 sticks at auto settings and the results.....nope....still barfs up errors immediately. Will start testing 1 ram stick at the time at auto when I get a anti-static wristband and anti-static bag. ><
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01 Jul 2015   #9
Mellon Head

Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RyougaLolakie View Post
Unfortunately, I don't have an anti-static bag nor anti static wrist band, but I'll order both of those right now.
Good suggestions! My room has a wooden desk I can work on but I dunno because my room floor is carpet. Would that work or not because of the friction of the carpet with my bare feet?
Definitely do NOT do it on a carpeted floor. The friction of the carpet on your feet can charge up your body. You may not feel the zap, but it's there.

Use the steps that I outlined and you'll be fine.
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01 Jul 2015   #10
RyougaLolakie

Windows 8.1 (z97 build - main) Windows 7 Premium 64 bit (x58 build - backup)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Mellon Head View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RyougaLolakie View Post
Unfortunately, I don't have an anti-static bag nor anti static wrist band, but I'll order both of those right now.
Good suggestions! My room has a wooden desk I can work on but I dunno because my room floor is carpet. Would that work or not because of the friction of the carpet with my bare feet?
Definitely do NOT do it on a carpeted floor. The friction of the carpet on your feet can charge up your body. You may not feel the zap, but it's there.

Use the steps that I outlined and you'll be fine.
Ah okay! I'll use your suggestions but I have a few questions. Is it possible to use an opened cardboard box to stand on while working inside the pc whether its placed on the kitchen floor or carpet? As for tapping 1 or 2 on the water taps, does it have to be done by using a cup of water to tap it? Is there any other way to disapate esd on myself?

Anti-static wristband and anti-static bag should be delivered by tomorrow.
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