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Windows 7: Sporadic hard drive intensely busy, apps stop responding

06 Jul 2015   #11
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Please post pictures of

msconfig/Startup and NON Microsoft Services.


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06 Jul 2015   #12
cytherian

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

The disk isn't thrashing, but some process is definitely grabbing priority over it, forcing everything else to wait.

I did see some "Hard faults/sec" in Memory. "Svchost.exe (netsvcs)" was showing around 8 for a stretch, then dropped to 0. Is it OK to occasionally see hard faults, or is that indicative of something serious with the drive?

What puzzles me is that when I did a fresh boot and I took a look at processes, I see Google Chrome in there... and I didn't even start it. It's not the updater. Also, for a while wmpnetwk.exe was hogging quite a lot of resources on the disk... and it's some network sharing service for Windows Media. Went to services and immediately stopped it, set it to manual. Maybe this was contributing to the chaos.
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06 Jul 2015   #13
cytherian

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
Please post pictures of

msconfig/Startup and NON Microsoft Services.
OK, sounds good. I'll try to post that tonight or tomorrow. Thanks!
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06 Jul 2015   #14
GokAy

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Jack, I suggested a clean startup in post #2. So it should be clean? But no idea if it will help, as issue persisted in Safe Mode too.
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06 Jul 2015   #15
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Their are many auto updates, Cloud backups ect. that could be reinstalling themselves in msconfig. It never hurts to take another look. It's free and easy to do.

When you get a lot of auto this and that calling home all kinds of things can happen.

@cytherian do you have any registry cleaners or speedup, tuneup my computer programs.
Do you have any programs by IOBit??

Please complete your (My System Specs). Make sure you put what security programs you use and the power suppy.
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07 Jul 2015   #16
cytherian

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Just got back (was traveling). I did a boot up in safe mode and was still able to trigger the continuous disk activity. The easiest way has been to launch Event Viewer, then select a sub folder (e.g. System or Application).

I have not used any registry cleaners or speed-up utilities (I tried some of those years ago with another computer and learned my lesson -- they often make more problems than they solve). No programs by IOBit.

When I did a fresh start up I had launched Process Explorer and Resource Monitor then triggered the behavior... and I couldn't isolate a culprit. Very frustrating. If I kick off Event Viewer and it starts, then highly unlikely it's a 3rd party app, right? I remember back in my days of using Vista, I ran into an elusive problem like this where all kinds of diagnostics and troubleshooting couldn't turn up a culprit... and the only recourse was a complete reinstall of the operating system. I'd hate for it to come to that. Anyway, I'll try to run up my complete system specs by tomorrow (getting late here and exhausted). Thanks again for your help, guys.
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07 Jul 2015   #17
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

cytherian get you rest. Take your time. The forum is open 24/7.
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07 Jul 2015   #18
cytherian

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

I updated my system specs to reflect my current laptop.

And below are some screenshots of MSCONFIG screens. I'm surprised that Microsoft doesn't have a convenient export facility for this, but even more annoying is the INABILITY to size this dialog. I had to take multiple screenshots and piece them together.






Now I see why Chrome is running in the background after starting. While I do launch Chrome for every session, I just presume leave it unchecked. I can wait a few more seconds for it to launch the first time. Everything else pretty much looks normal. BUT.. I'm not happy seeing *2* Google Updater services running. I really question the need for that. I don't want Google silently updating things on me.

My HP laptop has an "F2" hot key on start up that brings it into a diagnostic mode. I ran the whole thing, which thoroughly checks RAM and disk, plus other things. Everything checked out OK.

Meanwhile... So far I haven't run into this strange hard disk busy induced lag (knock wood).
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07 Jul 2015   #19
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Those are huge list. All those thing running at boot should keep the old hard drive busy for sure.

Some of them I don't know what to do with because they are HP and I don't know what they do or if they are needed.

In my systems all I have is MSE checked in Startup.
Non Microsoft Services all I have is Malwarebytes checked.


You don't need all those things starting at boot and running in the background when not in use.

Remember that all those things unchecked will still run and work when you or your system needs them. They just won't be running when not needed.
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07 Jul 2015   #20
cytherian

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

The problem returned.

Keep in mind that I've had most of that software installed for a very long time without issues. Some of these services are needed by various programs that run periodically during a session.

In any case, when you boot up in SAFE mode, only the bare minimum is loaded right? The hard drive busy problem happened then too...

Also, I created a new user profile and logged in with that... problem repeated. So, it's not user profile related.
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