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16 Oct 2015   #11
reble

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Though having the wireless keyboard and mouse solve 1 problem I had with the MSDOS game Bio Menace. With it's cheats. Part of the code requires to hold down M+J+I+spacebar to turn the debug mode on. With the inbeded number pad built into the internal keyboard. The code just won't work. And it won't work on any laptop with a built in number pad.


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16 Oct 2015   #12
reble

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1 question that still puzzles me about this IHome wireless mouse/keyboard set. When the mouse has sat, not having been moved for about 5 minutes or more. When I come back the mouse pointer will not move unless I ether pick up the wireless mouse and bang it on the desk or hit the right mouse button. Then the mouse is back to normal. I found this to be the same on the other keyboard/mouse that I returned to the store today. It is not even an annoyance. I was just wondering why it does it. I have never ran across this in ether a wireless or a wired mouse before. In the past the mouse ether worked or didn't work period.
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23 Oct 2015   #13
rubyrubyroo

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Wonderful!

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Today I exchanged the wireless keyboard/mouse at Biglots for a new one. So far there hasn't been a lick of trouble other then my own bone head typing errors like hitting 2 keys at 1 time. I guess only time will tell whether or not the problem is cured.


Great to hear the news, reble! It can happen anytime, even with top-of-the-line brand-name hardware. I actually bought two identical wireless Logitech keyboard/mouse combos about a month ago, from Best Buy, and they were far from being worthy of the store's name to say the least! Both came with serious problems (one came with Duracell alkaline batteries that had leaked all over the keyboard and the other had poor reception & the number-pad didn't have working keys, with the odd exception of the [num-lock] key!)

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reble,Glad to hear the replacement keyboard is responding better. I'm a huge fan of Logitech wireless keyboards and mice. A premium keyboard will greatly enhance speed, accuracy and overall pleasure. I'm using wireless illuminated Logitech model K800's (3) and then I have a solar powered non illuminated and a crazy great usb wired illuminated board. All are quiet and the back light is worth hundreds when typing in the dark as I'm doing at the moment.


I just invest in light bulbs! >< Problem solved!

But I do agree that Logitech is the way to go. Never buy Microsoft wireless anythings! I can't even think of one good thing to say about their related products! HP has some decent quality (and inexpensive) combos that work well. But for the price, quality and overall rugged longevity, Logitech is where I turn. For an extra $10-$15 you can upgrade to get a mini-sized keyboard or one with the much more pleasant tactile responsive keys (they are the really short looking keys.) They'll spoil you though, and you'll never be able to use a normal keyboard again!

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Yes Cyclops I know. But I only had $23. and change to get one. With all my monthly bills and having to get a good used tranny for my minivan now. I couldn't justify a higher priced one at let's say Best Buy. I am just thanking God that the tranny blew out only a few blocks from home. Only a week before the trip that we had table reservations for at the Amateur Radio swap meet in Spokane, Wa. About a 3 hour drive 1 way. I still have a garage full of all kinds of radio gear and parts to be sold. I was making the rounds of the local yard sales. You never know what kinds of treasures that one might find.


$23 might be ALMOST be enough to buy an excellent, albeit basic, Logitech wireless key/mouse combo at Best Buy, ESPECIALLY if you happen across a sale. The low end in that market is usually about $29.99 - but it varies by region of course.

BTW: reble, what's "Amateur Radio"? Vacuum tube-type circuits/amplifiers? Just curious because I have a lot of collectible old tubes and transformers and such, and I'm looking to trade some of the decent stuff for some practical knowledge, i.e. two-way communication/assistance on building a decent guitar and/or bass amp. Don't know what you do, but if that is along the lines of something you can do, lemme know.

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This is a IHome wireless keyboard/mouse. I 2 like Logitech better. But I have to make do with what I can afford right now.


That's totally understandable!

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Totally understand !


Hey now, linnemeyerhere! Are you mocking me? j/k!

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Though having the wireless keyboard and mouse solve 1 problem I had with the MSDOS game Bio Menace. With it's cheats. Part of the code requires to hold down M+J+I+spacebar to turn the debug mode on. With the inbeded number pad built into the internal keyboard. The code just won't work. And it won't work on any laptop with a built in number pad.


Just to be clear, that sounds like a totally unrelated issue. Nothing is necessarily "wrong" per se, assuming I'm understanding you correctly at least. Maybe explain this a bit more clearly for me. Your have to hold down four keys, but where does the whole number-pad part come into play? Explain it a little more to me like I'm not actually there with you and Iím not able to access your conscious thought processes, if you would! Does (num-lock) have anything to do with it possibly? I know it's going to be hard to get four keys in a "internal circuit" row to work simultaneously in most scenarios. But I don't think that the four you mentioned should be ALL in the same row (or column actually describes it better.) Just try to explain what you're asking as if I'm not very swift, don't haze over any of the details if possible.

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1 question that still puzzles me about this IHome wireless mouse/keyboard set. When the mouse has sat, not having been moved for about 5 minutes or more. When I come back the mouse pointer will not move unless I ether pick up the wireless mouse and bang it on the desk or hit the right mouse button. Then the mouse is back to normal. I found this to be the same on the other keyboard/mouse that I returned to the store today. It is not even an annoyance. I was just wondering why it does it. I have never ran across this in ether a wireless or a wired mouse before. In the past the mouse ether worked or didn't work period.


Yeah, some of them will act like that (Logitech wouldn't do that to ya' )! Some/most mice will go to "sleep" to save battery, so you don have to replace them every week! But the wake mechanism could be a soft (but full) connection between the contacts in the mouse button(s) OR some very low-power light emitter/collector pair under the mouse (possibly even a passive light sensor) There's not much you can do about that part other than just to get into the habit of just left-clicking ONCE every time you first sit down?! Unfortionately, it's the simpe fact that you've purchased a model/design that you don't like, so we're back to: you get what you pay for, usually less! Maybe save up for a $30-$35 combo in the future sometime and in the mean time at least you have a much better working piece of H/W then you did before you started at least!

Thanks for your responses!

Mike


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23 Oct 2015   #14
reble

windows 7 home premium 32 bit
 
 
re: a problem with a wireless keyboard

This wireless keyboard is having issues also now. Sometimes when I press on the letter (N) it doesn't register on the screen. I have to hit it again. The same thing with the (F7) key. I guess I will just have to live with with it until I can afford a higher priced one like a Logitech one. Logitech brand stuff has served me well over the years. Even used Logitech stuff from the thrift store. Granted sometimes I have to take the item apart at home and clean the contacts because something got spilled on it. A bit of ether rubbing alcohol or electronic contact cleaner and cotton swab's do wounder's. I have found many a nice flat screen plasma tv sitting by the dumpster because something got dumped on ether the tv or the remote or both. I bring it home, clean it up and resell it. In the whole Tri-cities area there is only 1 tv, dvd, vcr and computer monitor repair shop. And that guy is barely hanging on by his eye teeth. People just don't get things fixed anymore.

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by reble View Post
Today I exchanged the wireless keyboard/mouse at Biglots for a new one. So far there hasn't been a lick of trouble other then my own bone head typing errors like hitting 2 keys at 1 time. I guess only time will tell whether or not the problem is cured.


Great to hear the news, reble! It can happen anytime, even with top-of-the-line brand-name hardware. I actually bought two identical wireless Logitech keyboard/mouse combos about a month ago, from Best Buy, and they were far from being worthy of the store's name to say the least! Both came with serious problems (one came with Duracell alkaline batteries that had leaked all over the keyboard and the other had poor reception & the number-pad didn't have working keys, with the odd exception of the [num-lock] key!)




(Don't forget to mark the problem "solved" when it's solved!)
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23 Oct 2015   #15
rubyrubyroo

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by reble View Post
This wireless keyboard is having issues also now. Sometimes when I press on the letter (N) it doesn't register on the screen. I have to hit it again. The same thing with the (F7) key. I guess I will just have to live with with it until I can afford a higher priced one like a Logitech one.


Iím sorry to hear that, reble!

Now it's starting to sound like it's a real "lemon" model of keyboard/mouse combo (even more so then I thought before), or maybe the keys are getting too much abuse from the game-play for that "weak" brand of product maybe?

This is your only computer? You could test it on a desktop or someone elseís laptop and see if it has a REPEATABLE PROBLEM. That is the key to figuring out what is going on really. You need to be able to find something that is constant, ideally "(n) key NEVER works" then we can easily diagnose. Even like you say two or three keys are almost always the culprits... If you can try the keyboard and mouse long enough on another computer and the same results occur then we can say with a relative high-degree of certainty that it's the physical hardware that's malfunctioning. And I would return it if that was the case and try again or demand some form of repayment since their products seems like they have been pulled out of the ocean or something!

If it is fine n another system (try really hard for the same version of windows on the other system, i.e. Windows 7) then it's something in your laptop, be it software or hardware.

Can you do that? Any friend's or school's computer will do to test it. Give it sufficient time and usage that caused the problems on your laptop though. Wha'da'ya think?

Mike
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23 Oct 2015   #16
reble

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re: a problem with a wireless keyboard

I already tried this wireless keyboard/mouse on my roomates laptop (my old GateWay laptop os Win7 home 32bit). The same problems with the (N) and (F7) keys and the mouse are still there. I will just have to live with it until I can afford to buy a better one at Best Buy. The problems with this wireless keyboard are minor and I can work around it. It saves beating up the head phone jack on the laptop with the palm of my left hand when using the CTRL and ALT keys on the internal keyboard because of the location of the jack on the front left corner of the laptop. This laptop is a very poor design. The sound jacks should be in the middle front or on ether side. And the 2 right side USB ports should be behind the optical drive so the cords don't get in the way of the optical drive door. And I also had to put extra external Cooling devices on this laptop to keep it from over heating. When I replace the laptop I intend to look more closely at the layout and not so much at how cheap it is. By the way for info wise. The over heating I think is coming from the 500gig hard drive I put in it. It had a 250gig hard drive in it. I salvaged the 500gig hd from a broken laptop that I found. But I am not 100% sure.

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by reble View Post
This wireless keyboard is having issues also now. Sometimes when I press on the letter (N) it doesn't register on the screen. I have to hit it again. The same thing with the (F7) key. I guess I will just have to live with with it until I can afford a higher priced one like a Logitech one.


Iím sorry to hear that, reble!

Now it's starting to sound like it's a real "lemon" model of keyboard/mouse combo (even more so then I thought before), or maybe the keys are getting too much abuse from the game-play for that "weak" brand of product maybe?

This is your only computer? You could test it on a desktop or someone elseís laptop and see if it has a REPEATABLE PROBLEM. That is the key to figuring out what is going on really. You need to be able to find something that is constant, ideally "(n) key NEVER works" then we can easily diagnose. Even like you say two or three keys are almost always the culprits... If you can try the keyboard and mouse long enough on another computer and the same results occur then we can say with a relative high-degree of certainty that it's the physical hardware that's malfunctioning. And I would return it if that was the case and try again or demand some form of repayment since their products seems like they have been pulled out of the ocean or something!

If it is fine n another system (try really hard for the same version of windows on the other system, i.e. Windows 7) then it's something in your laptop, be it software or hardware.

Can you do that? Any friend's or school's computer will do to test it. Give it sufficient time and usage that caused the problems on your laptop though. Wha'da'ya think?

Mike
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23 Oct 2015   #17
rubyrubyroo

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Hello again, reble!

More than likely the overheating is due to graphics processor, since you're clearly playing a lot of games. Probably not the HDD, but I can't rule it out completely. Also a HUGE issue with laptops is that they get clogged with dust and hair and whatnot. They really need to be at minimum flushed out REALLY good with a whole bottle of canned air once every other month maybe if you use it a moderate amount. Air flow is very tight in a skinny laptop compared to a desktop chassis! If your good with computers, you should actually open it up and blow it out a few times a year too and make sure all the fans running smoothly.

Unfortunately, most laptops don't have the ability to upgrade the graphics card like a desktop does, hence brands like Alien-ware that make powerful graphics processors and some can even be upgraded! But new, that's big bucks!

I guess you can't exchange this combo for another chance at spinning the wheel of abandoned hardware junk!?

But yea, it definitely sounds like the keyboard is the problem. You for replying with the feedback to your problem. Donít forget to check solved if you have gotten all that you can in the way of answers! And , let us know about any other problems you have. You can always offer others help here if you know your way around a computer a litle bit too!

Thanks and I wish you well!
Mike
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24 Oct 2015   #18
reble

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What I did to solve the over heating problem is I got the 2 following things from Ebay USB LED Light 2 Fan 9" 17" Laptop Notebook Cooling Pad Adjustable Stand Cooler | eBay and Mini Adjustable USB Cooler Air Cooling Pad Fan for PC Laptop Notebook MacBook | eBay . The 2nd item, the little fan attaches to the laptops air exhaust port and pulls the hot air out. When I put my hand over the fan I feel a lot of hot air coming out. The 1st item is a laptop stand with a fan blowing air in from the underside. It is doing the job very well. The laptop was acting funkey after it warmed up. This is a cure for ppl that don't have the skills to open up the laptop and blow it out. This one was blowen out and still over heats. So I had to get the fans so the laptop doesn't cook it self. If I had the room I wouldn't be using a laptop for my primary computer. I would have a custom built tower. As it stands I can't run the game Trainz simulator in this laptop. The game doesn't like the built in video card. And as you know the video card on a laptop can't be changed.
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24 Oct 2015   #19
reble

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To rubyrubyroo . I missed the following line that you type until just now "Quote BTW: reble, what's "Amateur Radio"? Vacuum tube-type circuits/amplifiers? Just curious because I have a lot of collectible old tubes and transformers and such, and I'm looking to trade some of the decent stuff for some practical knowledge, i.e. two-way communication/assistance on building a decent guitar and/or bass amp. Don't know what you do, but if that is along the lines of something you can do, lemme know." Rubyrubyroo Read this about Amateur Radio What is Amateur Radio? It does a better job then I could at telling the story. As far as building a guitar amp I can do it. I have an AA degree in 2 way radio, tv and vcr repair. I can take apart computers and replace parts, blow out dust, replace boards and I am fairly good at fixing windows problems. But my computer knowledge isn't up to date. I officially retired in 1998 from fixing things because I couldn't hold the soldering iron still anymore. micro tremors in my hands. I was messing up to many printed circuit boards with to much heat and solder bridges. Some days I can't even sign my name and make it readable. As far as building a guitar amp. Buy the time you got done paying out money for a good person that can properly design an amp. You could have gotten a good new high end price amp. There is a lot that goes into designing a good guitar amp. like grounding ac hum, no ground loop hums and getting the highest possible gain without going over the top of the linear slope of the tube or transistor. If you go over the top of the slope the tube or transistor starts flat topping and make all kinds of noise and burns out. Thats what happens to cb operators when they crank up the transmit bios voltage to get a few more watts of transmit power. Anyways if you want to send the tubes and parts my way I can still make use of them to fix old radios. Have a young friend (in his 20s) that I an teach him to fix radios. He is going to school for electronics and gets practical hands on experience in my work shop at home.
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24 Oct 2015   #20
cyclops

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Hey reble, do you have radios and amps turned on near your computer rig? I am wondering if RF might be messing with the wireless keyboard and receiver. I used to run a 750 watt linear with a SSB/CB and it would bleed into my house phones, stereo, television and baby monitor. Long ago if I keyed up the mic at a red light I'd get the light to change. RF can do some crazy stuff to other devices.

By the way, what is an antique analog swr meter and an old Cobra 29 worth?
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