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Windows 7: What Will Extra RAM Do For Me?

04 Feb 2016   #1
PlasticTopHat

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 
What Will Extra RAM Do For Me?

I opened up the bottom of my laptop yesterday, and noticed a place for an additional component that I didn't have. Apparently it's a place where I could put in an additional RAM card.

Now, I have tried many times to understand it, but I just can't understand what all of the different physical components of a computer do what. If I put in an additional RAM card, just for instance say another 4GB one like the one I have, what would that do for me?

Would loading screens on games end faster? Would games run more smoothly?

I have a program called LEGO Digital Designer, where I can build virtual models with realistic virtual bricks. When I have a lot of bricks in the model, and am adjusting my view or copying sections with lots of bricks, it slows down. Would RAM help with that?

If RAM won't help, (now this is probably a REALLY dumb question, but worth a shot) can something else like a graphics card fit into the same slot?

Thanks!


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04 Feb 2016   #2
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Short lesson.
All the things about ram can get complicated but I'm not going to drag you there.

When you are doing things on your computer it is using ram. When your system runs low on ram because of high use your system starts using the hard drive if it can.

Hard drive are very much slower than ram so our system will slow down.
Adding more ram to your laptop is a good thing if needed. Adding more ram will not speed up your system if you don't do things on computer that request more ram than you have.

My system has 16 gig of ram.
At the present time it using a little over 2 gigs. Basically their is 14 gig doing nothing at this time.
Now if I put a demand on my system that requires more ram to work properly the 14 gig is there to be used and the system will not slow down.
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From your post.
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If RAM won't help, (now this is probably a REALLY dumb question, but worth a shot) can something else like a graphics card fit into the same slot
If the slot you are referring to is designed for ram nothing else will work there.

I'm not a gamer so I don't know how much ram is needed for games. Many members play games with 4 gig of ram.

If you would like to watch how much ram your system is using go to Task Manager/Performance.


What Will Extra RAM Do For Me?-task-manager.png




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04 Feb 2016   #3
PlasticTopHat

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

Okay, this post was extremely helpful. I guess what I'll do next is keep that performance monitor open and see if my RAM usage is hitting 4GB when my programs are slowing down.

Thanks!
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04 Feb 2016   #4
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

Adding 4 more GB of RAM will drain the battery a bit faster. So only add RAM if you really need it.

I'll toss in a bit more info:
When you first start the computer, the operating system and some 3rd party apps will load in RAM to run. When you start another app, it takes time to get the info from the hard drive and into RAM. When you exit that app, the RAM that the app was using might be marked as standby (which means that other apps can use that RAM now). If you start the same app again, you might notice that it loads much quicker than it did the first time that you loaded it. That quick load time is probably due to the app still being in RAM in the standby category. The more RAM that you have, the more apps you can keep in that standby category.

What Will Extra RAM Do For Me?-mem.png

The image above shows that I have a lot of apps in the standby category. I'm using 4.7GB because of the apps that I have open.


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04 Feb 2016   #5
LMiller7

Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by PlasticTopHat View Post
Okay, this post was extremely helpful. I guess what I'll do next is keep that performance monitor open and see if my RAM usage is hitting 4GB when my programs are slowing down.

Thanks!
Actually you don't want the gauge to hit or even approach 4 GB. Once that happens you are already well past the point where performance is impaired. The situation can happen where the system is under heavy memory pressure and applications are desperate for more memory and the gauge will still be under 4 GB.

Memory usage is always under the control of the system memory manager with the goal of maximizing overall system performance. To accomplish this it will try to maintain a reasonable value of available memory. This is the part of the gauge that appears to be unused but that isn't really the case. Much of this (or even all) will be in the system cache (labeled as "Cached" in Task Manager) and contributes greatly to system performance. Memory labeled as "Free" should be as low as possible, zero being the optimum value. That isn't always possible with large amounts of memory.

This is all VERY complex.

For optimum performance I would like to see available memory at 50% or even higher. If the gauge is over 50% for much of the time performance is likely going to be at least somewhat impaired. 8GB RAM is about right for a 64 bit OS with typical workloads. With 4 GB RAM performance will likely be impaired at least some of the time. For particularly heavy workloads you would need more but that is unusual.

Edit: The screensnhot in post #4 is a good example of what you want. Standby memory is high and free memory is low. Not zero but close. Cached memory is also high and that is good. If usage was much higher than this performance would be impaired.
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04 Feb 2016   #6
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
Use cpu-z/ cpuid to show us your cpu/ Main board/ MEM/ and graphic's screen shots
CPU-Z | Softwares | CPUID
Some of the slow down is more likely cpu and graphic's related more than ram.

If interested in ram upgrades use Crucial scanner
Crucial.com - Crucial System Scanner
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04 Feb 2016   #7
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Short answer: It depends

Long answer: In combination with Superfetch it could speed up the system
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05 Feb 2016   #8
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Post a shot of Resource Monitor, and we`ll go from there.

Make certain you are on the memory tab before you create the snip.
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07 Feb 2016   #9
kingscurate

win 7 home premium 64 bit
 
 

I have upgraded 2 typical laptops bought from the high street, with extra ram and did not notice any performance benefit.
A SSD(new hard drive) will provide the performance boost you may be seeking.
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