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Windows 7: Hardware for a good W7 HOME Server


16 Nov 2009   #1

W7 X-64 W8.1 X-64 Opensuse 13.1 W2003 Server
 
 
Hardware for a good W7 HOME Server

Hi all
It's very difficult to get really good advice on this but I'm now trying to build the "Ultimate" HOME server machine.

Note the machine will be essentially used as a HOME (not a commercial / work) server so it doesn't need all the fancy gaming state of the art graphics cards etc.

What it DOES need is enough RAM and horsepower to run 4 Virtual servers, whilst also file and print sharing to a number of "remote" (actually a LAN) workstations.

A "Blade" type server would be OK in a commercial environment but my server needs to be a bit like a conventional workstation.

I need around 16GB RAM (seems hard to get a basic motherboard with enough memory slots these days), and a QUAD CPU. The I/O subsystem nust allow for around 8 drives and two DVD/CD units to be connected and have video output capability to drive 2 monitors (although most of the tine the monitors will probably be disconnected.

I need to have as well at least 2 but preferably 3 Network cards on it.

Most of the stuff I've looked at seems to be more geared to high performance gaming or running NASA's next Mars mission.

A SERVER doesn't need hideously expensive gear - but it does need the capability to have loads of memory and disk drives to be connected to it.

Any IT admins out there who use this type of stuff at work -- recommendations.

The ability to run 4 Virtual servers decently is essential so 16GB of RAM is the minimum -- Ideally I'd like 64GB but that's probably like asking for the moon.

I've googled around -- there's load of info on decent high end gear -- which isn't what I need and also "server Farm" type stuff -- also what I don't need.

I can't be the only person who want to run a decent home server network.

I need the virtual servers as well as I often work from home on a lot of projects and use the virtual servers to connect to the remote customer and run their apps.

Cheers
jimbo


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16 Nov 2009   #2

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
The ability to run 4 Virtual servers decently is essential so 16GB of RAM is the minimum -- Ideally I'd like 64GB but that's probably like asking for the moon.
Jeez...I run a handful of ESXi servers at work and I usually put 24GB of RAM in those to run 10-12 concurrent Linux and Windows servers and that usually doesn't max out the RAM. So, I would have to imagine that 16GB of RAM is going to be more than enough for home use and 4 VM's.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
I need around 16GB RAM (seems hard to get a basic motherboard with enough memory slots these days), and a QUAD CPU. The I/O subsystem nust allow for around 8 drives and two DVD/CD units to be connected and have video output capability to drive 2 monitors (although most of the tine the monitors will probably be disconnected.
Quite a number of new mobo's support 16GB of RAM...it will just have to be a 4 x 4GB setup. Quad core CPU's are a dime a dozen. The I/O subsystem to allow that many drives will likely just involve adding on 1 additional controller card. And just about any modern video card can easily handle dual monitor support.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
I need to have as well at least 2 but preferably 3 Network cards on it.
Quite a number of mobos have 2 NIC's...You will just need to add a stand-alone PCI NIC to the box. The Intel 10/100/1000 GT cards are excellent and only around $25.

I honestly don't think that this would really cost that much money? Do you have any type of budget set aside that you want to work with? Of course, keep in mind that 16GB of DDR3 RAM for a Core i5/i7 build is going to be over $750 itself.
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16 Nov 2009   #3

W7 X-64 W8.1 X-64 Opensuse 13.1 W2003 Server
 
 

Hi there
thanks for the reply

Even with that I'm sure I could do the whole thing for around 2500 EUR -- don't forget I've already got a lot of the other bits -- discs etc.

Only the MOBO, Graphics card, memory, CPU and I/O controller card I think will be needed.

I've loads of spare NIC cards but most mobos don't have enough slots to insert these.

2 of the VM's will be running SAP type systems -- these are the memory hogs

Running OLAP type programs which needs to keep a decent amount of data in a cache requires decent size RAM or the system will page horribly whilst fresh data is being retrieved from the DB.

Note these OLAP queries are NOT transactional OLTP systems which can process 1000's of transactions /sec / min etc but usually run ad hoc by a few users in a "Data mining" or Data warehousing type application. Different requirements are needed


8GB RAM would probably be OK but while I'm at it I thought I'd go for the 16.


Here's a screenshot of a fairly basic type of OLAP system - linking EXCEL to a smallish SAP BW (Business Warehouse) type system.




Cheers
jimbo


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16 Nov 2009   #4

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Here is a suggestion....it's around $1700 US meeting the things you mentioned. The mobo has enough SATA's to natively handle 8 connections....so you can easily add another stand alone controller card down the line to handle a few extra drives. It's got dual on-board NIC's and 1 added a third NIC using 1 of the available PCI slots.

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$1716.93
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16 Nov 2009   #5

W7 X-64 W8.1 X-64 Opensuse 13.1 W2003 Server
 
 

Hi there
Thanks a lot
greatly appreciated the reply

these are the sort of things I'm looking for - they'll do the job just fine.

I'll feel like a small kid again opening a Meccano set (remember those).

I don't have any trouble getting stuff from the USA - there's a HUGE NATO base at Keflavik so plenty of deliveries from USA (and no sales tax either ).

cheers
jimbo
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