BROADWELL E is Around the Corner and I am Concerned

ThrashZone said:

I saw as supported os's
Win-10*
Win-8*
Win-7
* meaning really supported
Which M$ has already walked back the statements about not supporting win-7 on skylake
Board manufactures have made special installers to support the installs

The only definition is what does "support" really mean

MS "walked back" only one year. Win 7 users will lose full support (and some features) late in 2018 now instead of 2017. What was so despicable about MS' and Intel's little move was many people had already bought Skylake systems well before this little bombshell was dropped (I'm surprised some "enterprising" lawyers haven't filed class actions suits over this). This isn't a hardware compatibility issue; it's just another way MS is trying to force people off Win 7 and onto Win 10.

Now all you have to do is define what support actually means
Win-7 is win-7 it will receive important updates till 2020 is the bottom line no matter which cpu it's on :)

Drivers from the manufacture seldom are released unless massive issues are reported and confirmed by them then they offer updated drivers.
I doubt that will change no matter which os is installed.

Lady Fitzgerald said:

MS "walked back" only one year. Win 7 users will lose full support (and some features) late in 2018 now instead of 2017. What was so despicable about MS' and Intel's little move was many people had already bought Skylake systems well before this little bombshell was dropped (I'm surprised some "enterprising" lawyers haven't filed class actions suits over this). This isn't a hardware compatibility issue; it's just another way MS is trying to force people off Win 7 and onto Win 10.

That is precisely how I see it too. I read about a couple weeks ago that the reason Intel wanted to drop support for all other MS operating systems (bar the Windows Key logger Edition) on the Skylake platform was because of the ancient architecture of those operating systems; but that wouldn't wash with Win 8.1. The real reason, in my opinion, is the push to Windows 10. Microsoft must really be feeling the market saturation. Why else would they want to give Zuckerberg competition as they evidently propose to do with their "free" Spyware Inc. excuse for an o/s? I'm wondering how much they offered Intel to cooperate. How sad.

Now I know that everything is possible (just about) what I don't get is how a processor for example can discriminate between different OS's?? If true and Intel and MS and Asus for that matter have colluded to monopolise the market and aren't there laws against that happening?

I did say somewhere else too what if one happens to want to use Linux based systems?? taking this at face value it is not going to happen. In my mind it is all a cynical exercise in megalomaniac money gathering MS now being Attila the Hun and the plebs lie us have got to wear whatever they throw at us.

It is very sad because for reasonably simple people like myself the Windows 7 and 8 with all it's faults work at a speed and efficiency that covers all my bases and I suspect a great number of other users. I think I saw somewhere that 10 was 25% faster than 7 and for the life of me when I tied 10 I could not discern any difference at all in fact the sheer convoluted nature of the beast left me wondering where that extra speed and efficiency was.

Most of the "Faster" claims are for startup/ wakeup....
I don't see anything once started being faster I see quite the opposite with all of the live titles stuff
Reason being internet speed pretty much dictates how well or fast they work plus a really weird M$ server :)

I did notice because I always kill the silly lock screen 10 does respond a lot faster than all prior builds I've used
So some progress has been noticed by me
OS in general is still very unreliable from day to day being the update system makes it that way.

I read that cpuid was completely removed by a person 10 saying it was not compatible and was removed
I believe it was the developer saying this

I did notice because I always kill the silly lock screen 10 does respond a lot faster than all prior builds

True Mike but mate my laptop I am on now is a 14 second power on to login and going from Start to the Control Panel or my email from the taskbar in probably less than a heartbeat - why want anything faster?

I think the time I tried it it was those wretched panels and convoluted way of getting to the Control Panel for example left me a with a sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach - if that was faster then I will eat my socks

I suppose running multiple applications as one might for a business it might be faster but for the life of me I cannot see it.

Most people are using hdd's not ssd's so anyone using a hdd would likely see better startup times
Win-7 on a ssd there really is no startup time difference if there is it's minimal
That is also taking into consideration hibernation is off in both 7 & 10

ICIT2LOL said:

Now I know that everything is possible (just about) what I don't get is how a processor for example can discriminate between different OS's?? If true and Intel and MS and Asus for that matter have colluded to monopolise the market and aren't there laws against that happening?

I did say somewhere else too what if one happens to want to use Linux based systems?? taking this at face value it is not going to happen. In my mind it is all a cynical exercise in megalomaniac money gathering MS now being Attila the Hun and the plebs lie us have got to wear whatever they throw at us.

It is very sad because for reasonably simple people like myself the Windows 7 and 8 with all it's faults work at a speed and efficiency that covers all my bases and I suspect a great number of other users. I think I saw somewhere that 10 was 25% faster than 7 and for the life of me when I tied 10 I could not discern any difference at all in fact the sheer convoluted nature of the beast left me wondering where that extra speed and efficiency was.

MS is doing it by withdrawing support from Win 7 and Win 8.1 after a certain period of time. besides making it those OSes less secure, some of the new features that had been fuctional will no longer function. What really bites is many users already had Skylake systems before this was announced. Read here for more of this despicable action by MS and Intel.

Yes! That's the article! Thank you for sharing.

Here's one too about cpuid..
Windows 10 update removes software without asking (Wired UK)