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Windows 7: BROADWELL E is Around the Corner and I am Concerned

06 May 2016   #81
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Yep I guess you are right Mike but all the same a company like Microsoft surely would have the resources plus to track anything I would have thought they could do it quite easily just using IP addresses. After all they are quite open about using anyone's data with the latest OS.

I think as I might have mentioned why they will not release ISO's for 7 versions now is a bit of a mystery to me seeing that support for it is supposedly running out in 2018 - it simply doesn't make sense money is still money from whatever source.


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07 May 2016   #82
SCANNERMAN777

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

I don't think I'd have any problem getting the X99-E WS any time I wished if I were willing to dole out the coin they're asking for it up here. In spite of the negative reviews most of the reviews seem quite positive and like with all flagship motherboards there are always bugs to work out. To be fair, I won't say I've never had a problem with Asus but after duking it out with some of their reps I've found that there is always someone there who will reason with you in the end. Myself, I just want the price to drop another 50 bucks before I buy from the retailer I have in mind. It would be nice to get the board for under 600 Canadian (tax and shipping included) but I don't see that happening any time soon. If I can get it for 600 plus tax I'll likely jump on it. In the meantime, I've been busy getting the family network up and running again after a surprise disaster struck. It'll be a while before I'm ready to engage in another build but I'm looking forward to it. Never a dull moment here on the home front. I'm back to using ye olde X58 with the i7 920 (Bloomfiedl) and rather enjoying it. Windows 7 Pro isn't half bad and the wife is having a swell time gaming on SSDs in RAID 0 on the the Sabertooth. Alas, she has my Win 7 Ultimate now as I slowly but surely inch my way toward Linux. Man, I cannot believe the crap Microsoft is pulling on people in the name of Windows 10 as they inadvertantly mess our "out dated" operating systems with each new update. Kind of reminds me of the Syndicate's definition of "insurance". Frankly I can't wait for the day when support for Windows 7 grinds to a halt because then Windows 7 will work fine for years and years. Some of you may have noticed this pattern. I've finally convinced the 8 year old to give her Win XP to her little sister. . . It's still working fine so it wasn't an easy sell. One more month and COMPUTEX will be on board with the new stuff and the price of ye olde X99 boards will start dropping methinks.
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07 May 2016   #83
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

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Windows 7 grinds to a halt because then Windows 7 will work fine for years and years.
Yep well I tend to agree with that I mean what could possibly go so wrong with the system that requires updates etc For example my new bank is still using XP!! and it is one of the major banks at that.

But I am still going to keep trying 10 and next project is a dual boot 7 & 10 on two laptops - I already have 10 on a small (250GB SSD) trialing it out with their default GUI and also with Classic Shell on the other laptop's drive. It still smacks of 8 with botox and a tummy tuck but away from the panels the main thing I do like is the speed.

Pity I have just found out that WLM is being discontinued with the awful Outlook mail as I said in another thread it has served me well for many years and I cannot for the life of me see why the change - although there is money involved of course.

I still have the Linux Mint MATE on another drive if it all goes belly up and I suppose I could get used to the Thunderbird mail for that matter.
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08 May 2016   #84
SCANNERMAN777

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

What ya'll are sayin' about keys is true. "Legit" doesn't necessarily mean legal. And yeah... Odds are what most of these cats give you for a buck is only another dubious key. Hence my China connection where they state with all confidence that you can go to Microsoft Support with your problem (if you have one) because they already know their keys are both legit and legal NON-OEM keys. If Microsoft won't help you they will and the ISO they give you is directly from Microsoft. I won't be putting the link here though. I know that these are wholesale keys for Chinese builders. Thing is, support for Win 7 is history in about a year's time. Frankly, I'm looking forward to seeing that day because I know my Windows 7 will run perfectly after the "support" is gone. Just like it did when XP support died... Just like it did when support for Win 98 ended. lol My friend was running 98 online when support for Xp finally ended. So far the only o/s I ever saw fall short of this trend was Windows Mistake Edition and I have little doubt that Windows Keylogger Edition will follow suit. Meanwhile Linux is grinning like mad and waving at me across the table. I'm going to have to have a chat with that cat sometime soon.

(One more month to COMPUTEX) Hey did I mention that my Win XP is working fine?
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08 May 2016   #85
SCANNERMAN777

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

ICIT I completely respect your right to use the Keylogger edition if that is what makes you happy. Myself, I wouldn't be making any purchases on non-supported operating systems (and certainly not on Windows 10) but I guess that's what Linux is for right? Banks put alot of stock in encryption but we all know at the end of the day not even encryption is 100% secure. The way I see it as long as you run good backups and keep the archives in RAID 1 you shouldn't have a problem with old operating systems unless they're like 20 years old. On my last build (for the wife) she dual boots to 8.1 in RAID 0 on SSDs for gaming and does the serious stuff on the Windows 7 flip-side. I still miss my Windows 7 Ultimate but this Win 7 Pro isn't so bad and this old Bloomfield chip can still pull it's own weight even on a klunk drive. Once I get my next build put together my 8 year old will be getting this old i7 920 and once again I will be DELL free. It was part of the deal when I finally persuaded her to let her 4 year old sister have the Win XP. Of course, this was only after I proved to her that her Spore could in fact install on Windows Vista. Meanwhile the 6 year old sits like a Chesire cat with her Win 7 U . She's totally obsessed with gaming. I gave her the Asus z97 board because it suits her. She hasn't had a problem with it yet and it's going on 2 years now for her. Still waiting for that motherboard price to drop another 50 bux though. Feel free to check it out >>> Asus X99-e Ws/usb 3.1 Workstation Motherboard - Intel X99 Chipset - Socket Lga 2011-v3 - Ssi Ceb - 1 X Processor Support - 64 Gb Ddr4 Sdram Maximum Ram - 3.20 Ghz O.c. Memory Speed Supported - 8 X Memory Slots - Crossfirex, Sli Support - Serial Ata/6
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08 May 2016   #86
townsbg

Windows 7 pro 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SCANNERMAN777 View Post
Thing is, support for Win 7 is history in about a year's time.
Not true. Support for Vista ends next year whereas 7 is updated until 2020.

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...I know my Windows 7 will run perfectly after the "support" is gone.
True but without updates you are putting yourself at risk. You think that M$ puts out all those patches because they want to?
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08 May 2016   #87
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Actually yes,
M$ has been adding way too many non security related so-called fixes in Important updates lately.
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08 May 2016   #88
SCANNERMAN777

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

I'm having a terrible time installing Windows Vista as it is. It practically behaves as though they already ended support because the browser is already so many generations ahead I'm hunting for stand alones on Firefox. This is installation attempt #6 on the original unit with the original disc. All the bad stuff seemed to be happening after Service Pack 2. Full Support for Windows 7 has all but ended. That talk about 2020 is complete and utter nonsense. In fact, Windows Full Support for the next generation Intel chips running Windows 7 is done. Microsoft will only be addressing critical issues. I was already on the phone with a Microsoft IT trying to fix this problem and he told me that Support for Windows 7 has about a year left. On a side note I thought my Vista issue was fixed until it blue screened again and I completely lost the o/s. :::sigh:: Yes, I think M$ puts out all those patches because they want to. OF COURSE they want to. This is how their employees make their bread and butter and this is how they keep you on the line buying more products. Either way, Windows has you coming or going. It's a no-brainer.
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09 May 2016   #89
townsbg

Windows 7 pro 64-bit
 
 

I didn't say that hardware support would last until 2020 just that security updates from Microsoft end then. Hardware support and support for third party software unfortunately will likely end earlier as is the case for Vista. Now I don't know who you talked to but 7 is supported with security updates until 1/14/2020. It is support for Vista that ends next year. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...ha=windows%207
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09 May 2016   #90
SCANNERMAN777

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

I didn't say anyone should be making financial transactions on an unsupported o/s either. In fact I stated just the opposite. Support to me, means full support. Partial support is, well, half-assed support. I suppose some support is better than none but the support game is an old game and one game I'm getting tired of playing with Microsoft. Personally, I think the Windows 10 (Keylogger Edition) was the last straw for me. I realize anyone who wants to can turn off the (pun intended) WINDOW DRESSING if they wish but I don't think that many read the complete EULA that states that Microsoft reserves the right to turn it all back on if they wish to, any time they wish to, for whatever reason they wish. That, in addition to removing without notice any or all programs from my PC they deem "unneccesary", "pirated", or otherwise undesirable pretty much means that in exchange for them letting me use their "free" operating system I get to give them ownership of my PC for "free" and store it and run it for them for free too. What an awesome deal! (For Microsoft of course) Keep that web cam rollin' coz they reserve the right to that one too. (Just sayin') "Support" takes on an entirely new definition it would seem at the generous graces of Mighty Microsoft. One wonders if they aren't already in the insurance racket as well.
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