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Windows 7: Is this is a good deal?

24 May 2016   #31
Digerati

Windows 7 Profession 64-bit
 
 

I agree with Roland - have a good backup plan that includes multiple backup locations. One backup is not good enough. I am not a fan of external USB drives myself. The problem is, IMO, they rely on USB and that just is not as dependable as promised. If you look at the forums, they are flooded with users complaining they lost connectivity to them.

Plus, if a badguy breaks into the office and steals your computers, they likely will snag any attached USB drive too - then there goes your backup (another reason to have more than one backup).

A NAS (network attached storage) device can be physically located anywhere on your network, in a different room or closet, even a different floor of the building - out of sight [hopefully] of a badguy. And being networked, all users on your network can backup to that device. If you have another old computer, it can be turned into a NAS. I repurposed an old XP system just for that. I just made sure Internet access to that system was blocked in my router. And what's nice about using a computer as a NAS device, you typically can fit several hard drives in it, supporting many users and many backups.


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24 May 2016   #32
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

After reading most of this thread, I would say, $650 is not an unreasonable price. If you just look at it, a 4790 costs $305 and Windows 7 Pro costs $140. Certainly everything else is worth $200 at least.

That being said, There are a couple of issues. First it is used and you have no idea what condition it is in. Also, it comes from Ebay where many of the dealers are 'shady'. You will get no warranty and if one is offered, I would be very suspect. Third, as has been pointed out several times, the specs are way overkill. For basic office work, you do not need nearly as powerful a machine.

I agree with pretty much everything ignatzatsonic has said. He is spot on with his advice. You can get a good basic machine from Dell Outlet which is a refurb, but comes with the same warranty as a new one. You can get one more inline with the specs you need for a cheaper price and know everything is legal and in pretty good condition. Plus, you will get a new computer warranty. I also suggest trying to buy as basic a machine as they have and add the items on as you need them. Dell and all OEM's charge a fortune for Ram and SSDs. A good 250 GB SSD can be bought for well less than $100 and 8 GB of DDR3 ram can be purchased for $35. I suspect that is about 25% of what Dell will charge you for the same thing. I say listen to ignatzatsonic. He is giving very smart advice.
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24 May 2016   #33
kwitel

7/64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
Just took a look at Dell's business line.

It looks like if you want an SSD, you have to pay 579 on up. 679 on up if you want an i5:
And thats for a 128gb ssd!

If you want 256gb, it goes quite a bit higher...

The Dell 7k Optiplex series is the only one that even offers 256ssds and with 8gbs of ram, its 1100.
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24 May 2016   #34
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Find an i5 without an SSD and with 4 GB ram. Then buy your own SSD and 8 GB of ram. You will save a lot of money.
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24 May 2016   #35
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
Last I looked Samsung 250gb 850 evo is 88.us at Newegg I believe could of been Amazon.
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24 May 2016   #36
kwitel

7/64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
Find an i5 without an SSD and with 4 GB ram. Then buy your own SSD and 8 GB of ram. You will save a lot of money.
Problem is I dont know how to move an OS from the HD to the SSD.
Is it something I can learn how to do...in short order?
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24 May 2016   #37
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
It's easier than it reads
SSD - Install and Transfer the Operating System
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24 May 2016   #38
essenbe

Windows 7 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Enterprise X64/Windows 10 Pro X64/Linux Mint
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kwitel View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
Find an i5 without an SSD and with 4 GB ram. Then buy your own SSD and 8 GB of ram. You will save a lot of money.
Problem is I dont know how to move an OS from the HD to the SSD.
Is it something I can learn how to do...in short order?
Sure. You can use Free Macrium and clone or Image it and restore the image to the SSD. There are a ton of threads on here on how to do it.
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26 May 2016   #39
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

DELL Desktop PC OptiPlex 3020 05WX1W Intel Core i5 4th Gen 4590 (3.30 GHz) 8 GB DDR3 500 GB HDD Intel HD Graphics 4600 Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit with Windows 8.1 Pro License - Newegg.com

$580; price good till midnight today only.

DELL OptiPlex 3020 with i5-4590; 8 GB RAM, 500 gb hard drive, Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit with Windows 8.1 Pro License.

No monitor, no SSD.

60 bucks off normal price.
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26 May 2016   #40
kwitel

7/64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
DELL Desktop PC OptiPlex 3020 05WX1W Intel Core i5 4th Gen 4590 (3.30 GHz) 8 GB DDR3 500 GB HDD Intel HD Graphics 4600 Windows 7 Professional 64-Bit with Windows 8.1 Pro License - Newegg.com

$580; price good till midnight today only.

DELL OptiPlex 3020 with i5-4590; 8 GB RAM, 500 gb hard drive, Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit with Windows 8.1 Pro License.

No monitor, no SSD.

60 bucks off normal price.
Hey-thanks for keeping any eye out for me and posting this-much appreciated.
Thats a good deal but I think I am now set on getting an SSD.

I called Dell yesterday and they quoted me a the 3040 Optiplex Mini Tower with an i5-6500, Windows 7, 4gb of RAM, 256ssd (no optical drive-which I dont think I need anyways)-for $750
I figured if I needed it, id just hop on Crucial and get another 4gb of RAM.

Not bad, right?
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