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Windows 7: Error message at boot : Hard Disk:SMART Status Bad, Backup and replace

19 Jun 2016   #11
Mellon Head

Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
 
 

It's getting stuck because the two drives probably have the same drive letter and that's causing some confusion with the Windows bootloader.

There are some options to fix this, maybe even including a linux live distro.

I will have someone look into this thread who knows more about that. Stay tuned, we haven't forgotten you.


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19 Jun 2016   #12
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

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19 Jun 2016   #13
shank

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Mellon Head View Post
It's getting stuck because the two drives probably have the same drive letter and that's causing some confusion with the Windows bootloader.

There are some options to fix this, maybe even including a linux live distro.

I will have someone look into this thread who knows more about that. Stay tuned, we haven't forgotten you.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Thank you! Before Mellon head replied I was actually in the midst of doing the lucid puppy method. Managed to mount the bad hdd after waiting for a few minutes. Currently copying over the files I need, but some files are showing an input/output error and not getting copied over. Does this signify that the drive is quite badly damaged? Given the fact that it took quite long to mount and some of the files can't be copied over.
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19 Jun 2016   #14
Mellon Head

Win 7 Pro x64/Win 10 Pro x64 dual boot
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by shank View Post
Thank you! Before Mellon head replied I was actually in the midst of doing the lucid puppy method. Managed to mount the bad hdd after waiting for a few minutes. Currently copying over the files I need, but some files are showing an input/output error and not getting copied over. Does this signify that the drive is quite badly damaged? Given the fact that it took quite long to mount and some of the files can't be copied over.
You're likely to find that some of the files will not be able to be copied over, unfortunately. There isn't much you can do about that, I'm afraid.
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19 Jun 2016   #15
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Here is a little ditty for something I have used for years - a bit simpler I find but there always a few files/data that are not accessible.

BOOTABLE UBUNTU
Make a bootable Ubuntu disk Get Ubuntu | Download | Ubuntu
Set the BIOS to boot from the optical when the machine boots it will show you a screen with TRY or INSTALL > select TRY not INSTALL
When it is finished - it takes very little time you will get a screen like in the pic .
Open the drive you want > User and dig down until you get to the data / settings you may be able to copy / paste the material you want to an external source or other installed drive doing this.
I am not sure if it will but I have recovered tons of data etc using this method both on "dead" or just plain drives that you cannot get data from using Windows. It is also good for retrieving stuff from drives you may have forgotten the password for


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19 Jun 2016   #16
jumanji

Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by shank View Post
....... Currently copying over the files I need, but some files are showing an input/output error and not getting copied over. Does this signify that the drive is quite badly damaged? Given the fact that it took quite long to mount and some of the files can't be copied over.
Glad to note you were able to recover most of the files using the Live Linux Lucid Puppy. And yes, the data on bad sectors that cannot be read/read with errors is already lost. So invariably the files with that data are lost.You have to be happy that you were able to recover most of the files in the good sectors.

If you are keen to recover some of the files in bad sectors, you may try to clone your drive with ddrescue. On the first scan ddrescue will scan and clone all the good sectors. On the subsequent scans it will repeatedly read the bad sectors only and try to recover the data in it. Depending upon the extent and severity of the bad sectors, it may take days/weeks and even months to complete the cloning.If some of the files lost in the bad sectors are so important that you cannot live without that you may try it. In your case I shall put the risk/reward ratio almost nil - on recovering the data in bad sectors - judging from the fact the bad sectors are so severe, Lucid Puppy took sometime to mount the HDD.

Best method/tool for cloning a failing HDD for Data Recovery?
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20 Jun 2016   #17
shank

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICIT2LOL View Post
Here is a little ditty for something I have used for years - a bit simpler I find but there always a few files/data that are not accessible.

BOOTABLE UBUNTU
Make a bootable Ubuntu disk Get Ubuntu | Download | Ubuntu
Set the BIOS to boot from the optical when the machine boots it will show you a screen with TRY or INSTALL > select TRY not INSTALL
When it is finished - it takes very little time you will get a screen like in the pic .
Open the drive you want > User and dig down until you get to the data / settings you may be able to copy / paste the material you want to an external source or other installed drive doing this.
I am not sure if it will but I have recovered tons of data etc using this method both on "dead" or just plain drives that you cannot get data from using Windows. It is also good for retrieving stuff from drives you may have forgotten the password for
Thanks for that mate! I shall try that if all else fails.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jumanji View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by shank View Post
....... Currently copying over the files I need, but some files are showing an input/output error and not getting copied over. Does this signify that the drive is quite badly damaged? Given the fact that it took quite long to mount and some of the files can't be copied over.
Glad to note you were able to recover most of the files using the Live Linux Lucid Puppy. And yes, the data on bad sectors that cannot be read/read with errors is already lost. So invariably the files with that data are lost.You have to be happy that you were able to recover most of the files in the good sectors.

If you are keen to recover some of the files in bad sectors, you may try to clone your drive with ddrescue. On the first scan ddrescue will scan and clone all the good sectors. On the subsequent scans it will repeatedly read the bad sectors only and try to recover the data in it. Depending upon the extent and severity of the bad sectors, it may take days/weeks and even months to complete the cloning.If some of the files lost in the bad sectors are so important that you cannot live without that you may try it. In your case I shall put the risk/reward ratio almost nil - on recovering the data in bad sectors - judging from the fact the bad sectors are so severe, Lucid Puppy took sometime to mount the HDD.

Best method/tool for cloning a failing HDD for Data Recovery?
Thanks a lot jumanji! I am thinking of doing that by following the instructions in that thread. However, I have one question. Is it possible to tell ddrescue to stop once it has scanned and cloned just the good sectors? If I reckon correctly, r1 means infinite according to one of your posts in that thread. And also, instead of cloning any way to get an image done?
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20 Jun 2016   #18
jumanji

Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit
 
 

We recommend r3. That is 3 passes. Also ddrescue is under continuous development.There may be some changes.For example what was logfile is now mapfile or something like that. I have completely lost touch with it and so can't say much unless I refresh myself by going through it all over again.. So go to the author's website and get details of various commands. There are atleast three members who have successfully cloned. You can fish out their threads from the reference thread I had given and check what commands they have used.

After the first run ddrescue would have only cloned the good sectors and the files you get will not be anything else than what you have got with LUCID Puppy. So there is no point in running ddrescue for one single pass or stopping it after that.

Just try cloning a good drive first ( you can clone a 4GB/8GB/16GB pen drive to another empty larger pendrive ),to get a feel of how things go with it.( Of course with a good drive ddrescue will stop cloning after the first pass since it wouldn't have found any bad sectors.) But you can see how the other chosen commands work and whether you can successfully clone the good drive. Once you have established the validity of the chosen command options, and got a feel of how it works you can go ahead with cloning the bad drive with those commands with r3.
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22 Jun 2016   #19
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Hmm should have added in that ditty that not all files can be opened and maybe they are encrypted ones or cannot be recognised by the Ubuntu but most of the important stuff is usually recoverable.
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23 Jun 2016   #20
shank

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jumanji View Post
We recommend r3. That is 3 passes. Also ddrescue is under continuous development.There may be some changes.For example what was logfile is now mapfile or something like that. I have completely lost touch with it and so can't say much unless I refresh myself by going through it all over again.. So go to the author's website and get details of various commands. There are atleast three members who have successfully cloned. You can fish out their threads from the reference thread I had given and check what commands they have used.

After the first run ddrescue would have only cloned the good sectors and the files you get will not be anything else than what you have got with LUCID Puppy. So there is no point in running ddrescue for one single pass or stopping it after that.

Just try cloning a good drive first ( you can clone a 4GB/8GB/16GB pen drive to another empty larger pendrive ),to get a feel of how things go with it.( Of course with a good drive ddrescue will stop cloning after the first pass since it wouldn't have found any bad sectors.) But you can see how the other chosen commands work and whether you can successfully clone the good drive. Once you have established the validity of the chosen command options, and got a feel of how it works you can go ahead with cloning the bad drive with those commands with r3.
Thanks a lot for your help Jumanji. I shall try out the ddrescue to clone my damaged hard drive, and will update here once it's done.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICIT2LOL View Post
Hmm should have added in that ditty that not all files can be opened and maybe they are encrypted ones or cannot be recognised by the Ubuntu but most of the important stuff is usually recoverable.
Yes in LucidPuppy I was able to recover some of the files, but the rest of the files I'm going to attempt the ddrescue method.
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